(May 3, 2010 at 9:11 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Yeah I know. You want to know a reason to believe God actually exists outside of theological conosideration.No. I didn't say that. You're twisting my words again. I didn't say "outside of theological consideration". I want your reason to believe that he exists at all. You've said silly things like he doesn't actually exist he 'just is' which doesn't make any sense at all because he can't do or be anything if he doesn't exist. If he doesn't exist he isn't anything. If he doesn't exist he isn't real.
Quote: You want to know if he's real or not. That's what 'true' means to you.
Well if he isn't real then your belief in him is a belief in something unreal and hence it's a placebo at best.
Quote:Like I've just said, it's of less importance to me than anything I can think of right now.And as I've said. If you don't care about the existence of the thing you believe in, God, then your belief is a placebo at best. That's what a placebo is, the belief in something that makes you feel good regardless of whether that belief is actually based on reality or not, regardless of whether that very thing you believe in actually exists or not.
Quote: It's up there with impossible stuff I just find no merit in persuing. I already know I can dismiss it. You say the same. We have the same stance on the 'knowledge' of God.
You can't have any reasons to believe that God exists if you can't have evidence for it because that's the same thing. You repeatedly state there can be no evidence but that means that there can be no reason to believe he exists. And since you have no reason to believe he exists then your belief is just a placebo.
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