(June 10, 2014 at 2:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: You're the one who brought up the idea of my dad and me, if you wanted me to put myself in Issac's place you should have said so. Issac never indicates he has a problem with the situation, you need to prove he did before making a claim that he was scared for life.
"Isaac was totally okay with his dad tying him to an altar and almost killing him with a knife!"
Seriously? Is that your claim?
Have you ever, like, seen another human being?
Quote:I didn't say that, it's all part of your delusional idea to misrepresent scripture. So, nothing is established that comes from that deluded mind of your's. Issac wasn't threatened with murder, God as creator has the right to take the life of any of His creations. Besides in the story Issac shows no doubt of his part in this action between him, his father and God.
GC, part of writing well is being able to portray realistic emotional nuance. It's not a controversial claim to say that people don't like being killed or stabbed, is it? The fact that the story- constructed from the ground up to impart a message that represents an untenable bias against showing any of the realistic consequences of the actual actions- doesn't show Isaac reacting negatively only shows that the writer probably thought having a child react in the properly traumatized way would detract from the message he wanted to impart, which was that it's totally cool to sacrifice everything for god.
I'll ignore your absolutely terrible sentence construction as a favor to you, and I'll ignore the "god has the right to kill us!" line because it's patently ridiculous, but the fact that you point out yet more unrealistic writing doesn't excuse that it's bad writing.
Quote:You have no idea as to who I am and what I do, you are a judgmental person that claims Christians are the only ones who judge, double standard me thinks. You judge unjustly making you the one with no empathy for others.
"No, you!" - GC, 2014.
When did I ever say christians are the only ones who judge, incidentally?
Quote:Just because you refuse to believe doesn't make what I know untrue, your biased opinions are worthless.
Okay, let's play it this way, then: I know god doesn't exist. I know you're wrong. I know the Abraham story didn't happen. I know it, I know it, I know it.
Whoops, guess that's all true now, huh?
Quote:Where's your proof, pot calling the kettle black me thinks.
Are you... are you seriously still asking me to provide proof that people don't like to be stabbed? Is this seriously a thing, that you're doing?
Also, how can you accuse me of hypocrisy during the part of my post where I was pointing out your initial hypocrisy that's exactly the same as what you're accusing me of without your head exploding through sheer irony?
Quote:Yes let's be clear that you're interjecting your opinion into the story to change the story to suit your purpose,
I don't know where I ever could have gotten the idea to do that! hock:
Quote: a purpose of delusional hypothesis that has no place in real life, it's not Christians who are living deluded lives through what you call fairy tales, it's people like you who delude themselves with hypothetical lives.
Man, you are really swinging wild and responding to things I never said, here. Can anyone say "projection"?
Quote:Abraham told Issac that God would provide the sacrifice and God did, Abraham knew God had a perfect plan and was willing to follow it to see what God's desire was, and he found out what God wanted because of his trust and faith.
If the angel hadn't stopped him, would Abraham have gone through with the sacrifice? Or would he have just stood there, frozen like a statue with the knife raised aloft until narrative momentum resumed?
Quote:If Abraham did go through with the sacrifice, he would have done it knowing God would have raised Issac from death,
Where in the bible is that line?
Quote: the promise of the nation was going to continue through Issac and Abraham knew this, his faith in God's justice was complete. Do you really think that an omniscient God would need to put Abraham through this to know what he would do, this was for Abraham and to show future generations he was worthy to be the father of this nation God was building.
GC
The line the angel speaks immediately after stopping Abraham says otherwise. But hey, I'm only reading what the text says, what would that say?
For all your accusations of twisting the text, you sure as fuck don't seem to be terribly interested in what it says yourself, GC.
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