RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 11, 2014 at 3:55 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2014 at 3:58 pm by Chas.)
(June 10, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Lek Wrote: The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You must experience God in order to believe in him. If you're closed to him, you won't recognize his influence on the world around you and you won't see how he has changed the lives of those who believe in him. Like I've said many times before, you can't discover the supernatural by purely natural processes. The signs are there in the structure of the universe and in living creatures, but you're blind to them, because you've limited your options in interpreting them. You don't know if the universe was created or always existed, but you're unwilling to accept anything but a scientific explanation. So far you haven't found one, but you keep searching. It could be God, but you won't open up to the possibility.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You must experience Sagan in order to believe in him. If you're closed to him, you won't recognize his influence on the world around you and you won't see how he has changed the lives of those who believe in him. Like I've said many times before, you can't discover the natural by purely irrational processes. The signs are there in the structure of the universe and in living creatures, but you're blind to them, because you've limited your options to ignoring them. You don't know if the universe was created or always existed, but you're unwilling to accept not knowing. So far you have made one up, have stopped searching. It could be any process, but you won't open up to the possibility.
(June 11, 2014 at 12:39 am)Eye of God Wrote: Backpeddle all you want - the invitation was given to me and you are the one who looks like a fool who needs to practice his reading comprehension.
If you don't want to read a what a theist has to say, perhaps you shouldn't put yourself in places where they state their beleifs. It seems rather obvious that the OP was going to have theists giving their point of view. Unless you're thick? Are you a little slow on the uptake?
From what I can tell, it matters not if I'm an apologist or not, I was invited to this conversation and you were not. Doesn't mean you're not welcome, but it does mean that you are being a real ass by not allowing me to answer the question poised to ME.
*Backpedal
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.