(June 9, 2014 at 9:23 am)Severan Wrote: Here's a question for every theist and creationist out there.
What evidence or arguments do you have for a god?
As far as I've seen, we've been able to refute nearly all the arguments and rationalize all of the evidence you have. Do you have any legitimate support for the 'god' you claim?
The reason I'm asking for this proof is that the burden of proof always lies on the person making the claim.
It's obvious that theists have made the claim that there is a 'god' or some higher power. There are hundreds of religions. Each one is a claim to be the true belief. Religion is claiming a deity.
Yet despite this, theists fight tooth and nail to shift the burden of proof to atheists. We are just skeptics. Until any religion provides evidence for a claim, we must assume that god does not exist.
So, really. Don't give me 'bible verses' or already refuted arguments and call it evidence. Give me some real evidence that your god exists. If you can't find any, that's because it really doesn't.
ّI can provide many evidences to you.. But I don't think that anything would prove anything to you.. since "as you said" everyone has his own proof and claims !
But let's ask you the same question.. Do you have any proof that God doesn't exist?!
don't tell me science proves that.. cuz "to me" science actually prove the existence of God.
It simply depends on the person.. the personality itself.. some people are realistic they understand things using logic and experiments and some people are emotional .. they feel and sense things .. they always depend on their hearts to decide ! and some people "don't even think" .. they are not like you or me.. trying to seek the truth and search and think..they just want to live their lives with or without God that doesn't make a difference.. living like animals eat and drink and mate!
and many other personality types.. extremists.. idiots.. stupid.. blind.. dreamy.. etc!
So I think everyone thinks.. acts .. believe .. in their own way!
to me.. I can tell you my own experience with faith and why I chose to believe on God.. and since be a muslim.. as I believe its the last religion.. where I also believe on Christianity and Judaism and all the prophets and old books.. BUT.. would that make any evidence to you?!
I think if you are interested in God and really want to find him.. or make sure that he really exists or not.. you will find your own way .. and many resources are available ! No one else can convince you but you.
You have a free mind.. free choice.. and one life to search and decide.
You are right everyone claims that he has the absolute truth and sometimes with arrogance and extremism.. I don't like that either .. So I don't claim ever.. I just say "that's what I think" although I'm a strong believer I don't expect that others will accept what I believe on just because I have strong feelings that I'm on the straight path.
I used to invite people to Islam.. out of love ! You know when you feel that you know something great and want everyone to know about it? Or found the cure for something and wish that everyone can be cured ? That's why I used to invite people to Islam.. BUT then I realized that when someone wants to see the truth and seek it they will sooner or later.. but in their own ways.
I may talk and talk about Islam and provide evidences in many fields but still don't convince this person ! while a small experience like visiting a muslim country or listening to quran or etc.. make big influence on him!
But may I know .. why are curious about us believing on the existence of God?
