RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 14, 2014 at 1:40 am
(This post was last modified: June 14, 2014 at 2:03 am by Ravenshire.)
(June 9, 2014 at 9:44 am)Mr Greene Wrote: The Bible is our only evidence. It was inspired by the Creator of the universe. I need no other evidence.
Wow. You sure set the bar low for gawd. So, do you also believe in Odin? There's just as much "evidence" for him as for that monster you christers worship.
Or, are you suddenly going to start demanding evidence?
(June 10, 2014 at 5:41 pm)Lek Wrote: The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You must experience God in order to believe in him. If you're closed to him, you won't recognize his influence on the world around you and you won't see how he has changed the lives of those who believe in him. Like I've said many times before, you can't discover the supernatural by purely natural processes. The signs are there in the structure of the universe and in living creatures, but you're blind to them, because you've limited your options in interpreting them. You don't know if the universe was created or always existed, but you're unwilling to accept anything but a scientific explanation. So far you haven't found one, but you keep searching. It could be God, but you won't open up to the possibility.
What a steaming load of shit.
Your "all-knowing," "all-powerful" gawd knows exactly what it would take to make us believe and exactly how to present it to us in a way that it will not violate our "free will." Why doesn't it do so?!? Especially if "gawd is love" and "gawd is merciful" as you ass-hats love to spout. If it's so fucking loving and merciful, why hasn't it convinced us yet?
Because it either isn't loving and merciful and wants us to burn or it simply doesn't exist. Either way, there's no reason to believe in it.
(June 10, 2014 at 6:47 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You can't both be right.
But, they can both be wrong.

(June 10, 2014 at 7:28 pm)Lek Wrote: Nothing mysterious about it. You seek with him with sincerity, not looking for just what pleases yourself, but for who he really is.
Been there, done that, got the fuckin' t-shirt. Your gawd never showed.
Imagine that.
(June 11, 2014 at 12:23 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Been there, done that. LOL - it always comes down to "you were doing it wrong". How the holy fuck would you know? Why should we believe you, take your word for it?[emphasis is mine]
Or, "you didn't have enough faith," or "gawd moves in mysterious ways," or some other pat answer the ass-hats trot out in the vain attempt to sound like they've got a fucking clue.
(June 11, 2014 at 1:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: Then stop trying to tell us you believed and show us what you were doing while you were a believer, details please. Many here have claimed to be former believers yet give no evidence to prove their statements, why? Are you afraid to be scrutinized by the very scriptures you once believed.
GC
Some of us have never believed. We (or at least I) just wanted to so fucking bad we could taste it. Your gawd still never showed.
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