(May 4, 2010 at 7:30 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:(May 4, 2010 at 6:52 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: *laughs*Oh come on, Paul. Do I have to put you in tavarish's intellectually-challenged category? I had a little bit of respect for you, but that's quickly waning.
You have a point there, Angel. We do keep repeating the same things over and over again, but it's because you have never once admitted that your evidence is not evidence. Now you have. Thank you.
My bad. I misread your post. You provided what you consider to be evidence and several of us have tried to explain why it is not evidence, but you are still clinging to your claim that it is. As far as respect goes, you are not doing anything to keep mine, either. This has just gotten silly.
(May 4, 2010 at 7:30 pm)AngelThMan Wrote:Paul the Human Wrote:This thread basically went like this:Let's define who Us is: die-hard atheists on an atheists forum. In the real world, my evidence would be considered rather than dismissed from the get-go.
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By other die-hard theists? Probably. That does not mean it is actually evidence.
(May 4, 2010 at 7:30 pm)AngelThMan Wrote: Now explain to me why I should change my mind just because a few atheists on an atheists forum say that my evidence is not evidence, when the discussion would go differently in the real world? Give me something new and fresh so that I can address it.
You presented what you think is evidence. We all read the post and know that it is not evidence. There is nothing more to add... and yet, together, we have typed up almost 70 pages worth of posts. No one says you have to stop thinking that it is evidence despite what 'we' say, but you seem to be obsessed with convincing us we are wrong. Give us something fresh so that we can address it.
Seriously. It is just silly to keep arguing over whether or not what you have presented is actually evidence. I certainly do not consider it evidence and I have explained why I do not. What else is there to say about that? It's not like we're going to change each other's minds.
You keep accusing 'us' of not giving any consideration to what you've said, but that is simply not true. Evidence is something we atheists are very interested in, so if someone were to offer evidence that god exists, that we could actually call evidence (by the definition we're using), we'd be more than happy to accept it as evidence. Unless you want to keep trying to convince us that human intelligence and gaps in scientific knowledge are evidence that god exists (which they are not), I suggest you let this go and partake in other conversations on the site.