(June 18, 2014 at 10:52 am)zanOTK Wrote:(June 18, 2014 at 5:03 am)pocaracas Wrote: Indeed they do... but do they have good reason for such belief?
Or is it just "gut feeling" and indoctrination?
yeah.... why are all claims about any of god's actions always in the past?
Maybe, they're just stories, huh? Like the other one I'm reminded of that starts off with "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away"... how can anyone refute that?!
Baha'i.... now there's a new religion for me!
Wiki gods, please help!!
Oh, look, they helped!
Sounds a lot like present-day catholics... But I guess there are some divergent details.
It's not really a "gut feeling" for me, nor is it indoctrination. It's past experience. Which suck, because personal experience can't really be used as any kind of evidence. But I'm not trying to prove anything, so *shrug*.
As for claims about God's actions: Most of the "major" ones, Baha'is basically believe are myth. They are said to hold metaphorical truths, but are not literally true themselves. That doesn't mean we don't believe in miracles period, it just means we don't believe in MOST of them actually happening.
There are a LOT of "divergent details." Starting with: Catholicism came out of Judaism, the Baha'i Faith came out of Islam. Catholics today believe that the practitioners of other religions -maybe- have a chance of going to heaven due to the "mystery of Christ's sacrifice," Baha'is believe the practitioners of other religions have just as much of a chance as Baha'is do to achieve a good afterlife. Which leads to another: Baha'is don't believe in Heaven and Hell. We believe that these are metaphors for nearness to and distance from God. We also believe that you can continue to draw nearer to God after death (to Catholics that would basically be saying you can get to Heaven from Hell). Also, while Catholics have a powerful priesthood, Baha'is have no clergy. For spiritual matters, we are responsible for ourselves. For administration, we hold elections for the Local, Regional, National, and International administrative bodies. Baha'is also don't believe in the Trinity, or that Jesus resurrected after being crucified.
Just out of curiosity, what kind of miracles do you believe happened? And then, does that fall into your 'gut feeling' area of belief, or do you have any evidence for those miracles?
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