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A simple question for theists
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A simple question for theists
If God told you that you absolutely must kill someone who, in your eyes, is 100% innocent, would you do it? Why or why not? Assume that you are also 100% sure that God did indeed tell you this and you did not have a hallucination etc.

This question is not religion-specific in any way and is just a hypothetical situation.
"Faith is the excuse people give when they have no evidence."
  - Matt Dillahunty.
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RE: A simple question for theists
(March 31, 2017 at 11:46 pm)masterofpuppets Wrote: If God told you that you absolutely must kill someone who, in your eyes, is 100% innocent, would you do it? Why or why not? Assume that you are also 100% sure that God did indeed tell you this and you did not have a hallucination etc.

This question is not religion-specific in any way and is just a hypothetical situation.

No
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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A simple question for theists
(March 31, 2017 at 11:46 pm)masterofpuppets Wrote: If God told you that you absolutely must kill someone who, in your eyes, is 100% innocent, would you do it? Why or why not? Assume that you are also 100% sure that God did indeed tell you this and you did not have a hallucination etc.

This question is not religion-specific in any way and is just a hypothetical situation.


When I was a theist, I most certainly would not have done that. I always questioned the examples in the Bible of such things.
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RE: A simple question for theists
Ido everything Winthrop tells me to do as it is, why would I shy away from any special requests from God ?


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RE: A simple question for theists
(March 31, 2017 at 11:46 pm)masterofpuppets Wrote: If God told you that you absolutely must kill someone who, in your eyes, is 100% innocent, would you do it? Why or why not? Assume that you are also 100% sure that God did indeed tell you this and you did not have a hallucination etc.

This question is not religion-specific in any way and is just a hypothetical situation.

Here's the thing sport.

God told us not to follow any new or direct revelations if the contradict how we are told to live in the bible.

If God told one of us to kill someone period apart from what the rule of law is willing t support, then what that person is talking to is not God.
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RE: A simple question for theists
This seems to be an incredibly popular question here lol. I've seems it asked numerous times in my 2 years on AF.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: A simple question for theists
(April 1, 2017 at 12:34 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(March 31, 2017 at 11:46 pm)masterofpuppets Wrote: If God told you that you absolutely must kill someone who, in your eyes, is 100% innocent, would you do it? Why or why not? Assume that you are also 100% sure that God did indeed tell you this and you did not have a hallucination etc.

This question is not religion-specific in any way and is just a hypothetical situation.

No

What happens to "God works in mysterious ways"?

What happens to "He doesn't have to explain himself to you"?

If God knows what he is doing, why wouldn't you follow his orders?

How about you consider this CL, maybe you have better morality than the god you want to believe in? Maybe there is no God. 

Now before before you say "God would never ask you to do something like that", how do you explain the story of Abraham being asked by God to kill his own child? Your response might be, " but he didn't do it"..... In real life, "I didn't mean it" or "it was a loyalty test" would not fly if you heard that being said between real parents. Moral humans would call the police and rat out someone who said that to see if someone else would really do it.

If you say you wont, you lack the loyalty you may claim to have. If you say you would, flat out, that would make you evil. That is the conundrum with calling a God "all powerful" or even worse, "all loving". I do not see any "free will" in that logically.
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RE: A simple question for theists
(April 1, 2017 at 11:13 am)Drich Wrote:
(March 31, 2017 at 11:46 pm)masterofpuppets Wrote: If God told you that you absolutely must kill someone who, in your eyes, is 100% innocent, would you do it? Why or why not? Assume that you are also 100% sure that God did indeed tell you this and you did not have a hallucination etc.

This question is not religion-specific in any way and is just a hypothetical situation.

Here's the thing sport.

God told us not to follow any new or direct revelations if the contradict how we are told to live in the bible.

Book, chapter, and verse?
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RE: A simple question for theists
(April 1, 2017 at 12:23 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(April 1, 2017 at 11:13 am)Drich Wrote: Here's the thing sport.

God told us not to follow any new or direct revelations if the contradict how we are told to live in the bible.

Book, chapter, and verse?

Nonsense on Drich's part because the NT contradicts itself. First off in any case the Jesus is the same entity as God, there is no way around that in any case. Secondly Jesus DOES have quotes in the NT where he does claim to be there to keep the OT laws. The hypocrisy is these same people who say the OT doesn't apply are the same people who want to uphold the OT 10 commandments.
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RE: A simple question for theists
Bullshitters gonna bullshit, Brian.  It's what they do best.


Quote:6 “Whoever sheds human blood,
    by humans shall their blood be shed;
for in the image of God
    has God made mankind.

Gen 9

Of course, "god" later amended this rule a whole shitload of times!
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