There is no God.

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I believe there is no God. Atheism is usually not stated this way, to avoid the burden of proof, and granted that is a fair point I see no reason to shudder the burden. There is evidence against God; every conflicting creed or claim about him, our current knowledge of evolutionary theory as it relates to chemistry, biology, and culture, all points to one direction: there have never been any agents outside physical laws and natural selection shaping the direction of genes or the silly memes our genes and environment have inspired. There is no concept of God hence put forth that is indistinguishable from the very properties we would ascribe to an object that we were trying to literally define out of existence. Timeless, non-physical, limitless in power and knowledge, the list goes on with descriptions that consist of taking concepts we use in the real world, concepts defined by their limitations, and stripping them of all relevant application. What does omnipotence mean? Is this a question for philosophers or theologians? At such a point in the discussion, what's the difference? Why should the existence of something by default imply the existence of something greater? What pay off does God offer that isn't synonymous with "I don't know yet..." As an atheist I would add, "but the hard work getting put in is yielding new information everyday. And as I suggested, all the evidence I've seen is directly counter to the notion of God."

Now if your idea of God is little more than some ineffable force, then of course we know there are forces in nature that are currently ineffable. Fuck, most of physics to me, the mathematical equations, mean nothing. I'll likely never wrap my head around it. Black holes and dark matter are examples that come to mind that bring my intellectualizing to its knees. God doesn't, at least how he seems construed by misguided philosophers and theologians. To me, the concepts used to describe God are boring because as I said, they're all but meaningless adjectives, concepts stripped of the very limitations that make them meaningful as descriptions of existing (and tellingly, distinctly human) properties.

I believe God is a myth and I'm confident that observations from all fields of science support that claim.

well, this is bullshit.
You are making a claim that past the knowledge of science.

hey, but maybe your the smartest stupid fucker in the world.

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The grand thing is that we don't NEED to prove the non-existence of God. We don't even need to prove that Pickup's belief that God is mythic and that science supports the notion.

Atheism needn't do anything at all but wait for religionists to come up with either 1) evidence or 2) arguments that are not reasonable refutable. Take your time on this - we've been waiting 200 000 years.

Boru

Are you trying to divert attention away from the op?

By the looks of it you were successful. But these idiots don't need a leader

We don't need to prove the non existence of god/s for sure. We don't need to prove existence either.

Science always works on proof though, and if shonuff claims that science claims something, anything, then he better be prepared to support that claim with evidence.

Don't let him off the hook. He made a claim.

Otherwise you will look incredibly hypocritical asking for empirical evidence for anything from now on.

Just trying to help

I have no idea where these cock roaches get this idea they dont have to support a claim. he must be trained by fuk jam teeknow..

you make a claim ... you need evidence.

for axample.
"I believe he is an asshole" (no one in particular just an example)

evidence;
based on thes post, he has no more insight about science than your average butt fucked alter boy.