Evidence God Exists

[Loki_999]

What does being a strong christain have to do with weak reasoning.

The athiest viewpoint is that in order to accept many aspects of religion you have to ignore or dismiss certain facts about reality. The stronger the belief, the more you have to dismiss. Ergo, weak reasoning because the strong theist cannot allow themselves to consider the whole picture otherwise they will see the inconsistencies in their belief.

Take for example the creationists as an extreme example. They spend quite a bit of time trying to prove their worldview and happily take things out of context or play with facts to demonstrate that the real world is not in conflict with their beliefs. One or two of their arguments are even logically sound if you take only the facts presented as part of the argument. Eg: The flood and Noah's ark and how many animals you could fit in the ship... if you accept only 50,000 species and they were all located in the middle east then yes, perhaps they could have all fitted on the ark... but we know that there are a lot more species in the world (not to forget the dinosaurs that some creationists will tell you existed at that time) and there is the whole business of how Kangaroos etc got from Australia or returned... land bridges my arse!

Ok, so i'm picking on quite an extreme form of Christianity here, but its all a matter of gradients. The creationists a simply bonkers... moderate Christians just have less blinkers and need to do less mind twisting in order to make their world view fit with what they experience.

Overall I find it much better to experience and then draw conclusions (I hear thunder, i don't know what it is, its rather frightening, but i'll just call it thunder until I find out more about what causes it), rather than decide what is real and then fit my conclusions to my belief (i hear thunder, i don't know what it is, its rather frightening, it must be the Gods fighting)

Do you really believe that your nonbelief negates God. Not at all. The logic that atheist claim can not define God because He is beyond your logic. If I were closing my mind I would not be a part of this forum I would shut myself up in the corner of a church building somewhere and believe what other christians say. I search the scriptures for truth and the members of this forum challenge me to do so.

I agree, not at all. Non-belief is exactly that. We don't negate gods because we do not believe they exist. This brings us very nicely back to the title of this thread and a point made by Dawkins and others many times. The burden of proof lies with the believer, not the unbeliever. You say God exists.... show us the proof.

Give one example of something happening somewhere which cannot be explained (either currently, or potentially) without resorting to God. And even if you could manage that, then prove that this god is actually the Triune God of the desert and not some other deity, and finally even assuming all this, then tell us why we should worship such a deity which demands this worship otherwise we will burn in hell, because, for sure, even if Yahweh was proven to exist, i would sure as hell not worship him.

There are not many gods that have been invented that I could actually respect, never mind worship. Aphrodite (Love) and Athena (Wisdom) are two from the Greek pantheon that I could respect... but still would not worship them.