RE: About other gods-question for theists
June 27, 2014 at 1:57 pm
(This post was last modified: June 27, 2014 at 2:12 pm by Jenny A.)
@ Orangebox
(1) You said:
What external confirmation do you have of that? Being "given belief" is an internal feeling and not an external confirmation. It is exactly what believers in other religions have. So why not Islam? Surely their internal confirmation is just as valid as yours. Your choice is cultural nothing more.
(2) As for Biblical contradictions, there are whole articles devoted to that:
[email]http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html[/email]
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/b...radictions
But the biggest one that stands out to me is not an internal contradiction. It's that Jesus in the Gospels was so clearly stating that the world is ending soon and god is coming now. Didn't happen.
The second biggest contradiction is that the god of the Old Testament is such a very different character than the god in the New Testament.
Read the Gospels side-by-side sometime. You'll find they don't agree. http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/Shred...ospels.htm
(3) Christians in the U.S. don't live in a theocracy but many of them behave as if they'd like to. What does that have to do with whether the Old Testament is largely negated by the New Testament?
(4) Lets try your syllogism again:
A says there is a god and some of his truth is found in X.
B says there is a god and some of his truth is found in X.
A and B contain some internal contradictions and also sometimes contradict X.
X does not contradict itself.
Therefore X is true.
Better? It still doesn't follow logically.
(1) You said:
Quote:From a spiritual perspective, God has elected me, regenerated me, and given me belief. This is nothing I did on my own, nor nothing I deserve, but rather it is the work of God that no man may boast.
What external confirmation do you have of that? Being "given belief" is an internal feeling and not an external confirmation. It is exactly what believers in other religions have. So why not Islam? Surely their internal confirmation is just as valid as yours. Your choice is cultural nothing more.
(2) As for Biblical contradictions, there are whole articles devoted to that:
[email]http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html[/email]
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/b...radictions
But the biggest one that stands out to me is not an internal contradiction. It's that Jesus in the Gospels was so clearly stating that the world is ending soon and god is coming now. Didn't happen.
The second biggest contradiction is that the god of the Old Testament is such a very different character than the god in the New Testament.
Read the Gospels side-by-side sometime. You'll find they don't agree. http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/Shred...ospels.htm
(3) Christians in the U.S. don't live in a theocracy but many of them behave as if they'd like to. What does that have to do with whether the Old Testament is largely negated by the New Testament?
(4) Lets try your syllogism again:
A says there is a god and some of his truth is found in X.
B says there is a god and some of his truth is found in X.
A and B contain some internal contradictions and also sometimes contradict X.
X does not contradict itself.
Therefore X is true.
Better? It still doesn't follow logically.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
