No way, you two. I'm going to stick with the literal NON-interpretation of your rulebook, unless you can show where it says to not take which parts seriously. I'll leave the making up of new, adapted interpretations to the followers, since they are the ones needing them. I'm very aware that people change and metaphorize it, and I actually think that's a good thing. If it didn't happen, a lot more fundie horrors would happen. But for the purposes of most conversations, and because all re-interpretors do their changes a bit different than each other, I can only attack the common root of it, the rulebook that clearly says you will be tortured forever for not thinking thoughts about how wonderful your god is. What is worship? What is acceptance into the heart? What is love? What is belief? Control your thoughts or be tortured forever. Your god makes this very clear. If he were real, he's be the worst asshole in the universe. Dictators are bad enough, but thought police? Yikes!!!
Believe in him all you want, but would your all loving god really torture people forever just because they were not able to think praises about him without faking it? Why would your god even need his emotions pandered to in such an immature way?
So yeah, no telling me that this doesn't really mean that, or that this one is a metaphor or whatever. If you want to take that line of thought, then the conversation is no longer about the Abrahamic god, but about a metaphorical god concept, some of whose principles you follow, sort of. And once recognised as a mere concept, I have no argument, as I don't disagree any more about its existence. The individual morals yes, but not the existence any more once that claim is revoked.
The so called perfect and inspired word of such a god, certainly wouldn' t be vague would it? Would your god take such a chance when the consequence for his beloved children is so high? Eternal fucking torture?
If you want to go the metaphorical route, are you prepared to consider that God is also just a metaphor?
Believe in him all you want, but would your all loving god really torture people forever just because they were not able to think praises about him without faking it? Why would your god even need his emotions pandered to in such an immature way?
So yeah, no telling me that this doesn't really mean that, or that this one is a metaphor or whatever. If you want to take that line of thought, then the conversation is no longer about the Abrahamic god, but about a metaphorical god concept, some of whose principles you follow, sort of. And once recognised as a mere concept, I have no argument, as I don't disagree any more about its existence. The individual morals yes, but not the existence any more once that claim is revoked.
The so called perfect and inspired word of such a god, certainly wouldn' t be vague would it? Would your god take such a chance when the consequence for his beloved children is so high? Eternal fucking torture?
If you want to go the metaphorical route, are you prepared to consider that God is also just a metaphor?