A discussion around family table.

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One of the 10 Commandments is : "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." There is nothing in there about ACTION. It is purely about controlling your thoughts.

I bet you think the laws of the land are mind control too right?

Thing is, as a Christian I consider myself on a level with those laws.

The 10 commandments were given to a people who needed rules to live by after emerging from slavery to the Egyptians. We are not 'under' the rules but liberated 'by' them.

You have to be illogical to hold your point of view.

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Please show me that part

Please show me this part

Nah, too much work, and anyways, I think you know full well it's all there.

No, I know it isn't there. Hence the request.

Would you really get wet if you didn't use an umbrella? Yes.

If the 'rain'like threat of hell were real, I would indeed use an umbrella. It would have holes though, as I would be unable to do the thought requirements.

See the bible says it doesn't matter if your umbrella has holes. you're still forgiven. Pretty nice huh?

Is doing bad stuff detrimental to yourself? Yes

Sometimes, but sometimes it's only detrimental to others. Doesn't matter though, since I don't think disobeying the many silly demands like worship are detrimental. Do you?

I'd say it's usually detrimental to others, but then that's changing the subject : you. It's not so much a demand, and a natural response to give credit where it's due. If a person was all take and no give, I guess you'd consider them poorly. Same applies here... should you be considered favourably or unfavourably?

Is God counter natural? No

Belief/searching in explanations is quite natural, but the actual existance of your god is not. There is absolutely nothing in nature indicating the existance of any gods at all.

And this has relevance how?

"Actual existence" is a question of empirical knowledge. Only an idiot would require empirical knowledge of a non temporal entity. Is that you?