About other gods-question for theists

[Jenny A]

@ Orangebox

(1) You said:

What external confirmation do you have of that? Being "given belief" is an internal feeling and not an external confirmation. It is exactly what believers in other religions have. So why not Islam? Surely their internal confirmation is just as valid as yours. Your choice is cultural nothing more.

Someone giving something to me is by definition external (it is an external entity operating upon me). If I were to give something to myself, that would be internal. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding your definition of 'external', please define.

What event or happening that you can show to be outside yourself gave you the belief. As far as I can tell from what you say, you looked inside, saw god and then declared god to be an external force. What specifically happened outside of your head to give you belief in god?

(2) As for Biblical contradictions, there are whole articles devoted to that:

[email]http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html[/email]
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/page/b...radictions

There are whole books (Alleged Discrepancies of the Bible. Haley, John) and webslte articles (carm.org, apologeticspress.org, etc) devoted to debunking so-called Biblical contradictions.

So there are and I've read some of them. Never seen one that wasn't B.S. though.
For example, please explain when Jesus was actually born since Matthew claims that Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the Great but Luke claims that Jesus was born during the census of Quirinius (6-7 CE) which is ten years after Herod died in 4 BCE. Was he born twice?

The genealogies for Jesus in Mathew and Luke are so different that they hardly contain a single name in common. Further both are through Joseph which makes no sense at all if Jesus were born of a virgin. --apologists suggest that one of those genealogies was Mary's but that's not what either gospel says.

I could go on but two is plenty to start. And we haven't even left the birth scene.

Read the Gospels side-by-side sometime. You'll find they don't agree. http://www.philvaz.com/apologetics/Shred...ospels.htm

Read: One Perfect Life by John MacArthur. You'll find they do agree.

Good maybe you can use him to answer the above questions.

What does that have to do with whether the Old Testament is largely negated by the New Testament?

Not negated, fulfilled.

Name one prophesy clearly stated in the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New Testament. Give me the verses.

(4) Lets try your syllogism again:

A says there is a god and some of his truth is found in X.
B says there is a god and some of his truth is found in X.
A and B contain some internal contradictions and also sometimes contradict X.
X does not contradict itself.
Therefore X is true.

Better? It still doesn't follow logically.

You continue to misrepresent my argument by adding your own philosophical bias ("contain some internal contradictions') to my argument. I did not include this proposition in my argument. Please represent my argument accurately or if you don't understand it, ask for clarification.

OK, clarify. Let's see your syllogism. Don't just say I haven't gotten yours right. Supply yours.