(May 11, 2010 at 9:10 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: Fr0d0, you'd have a point about physical dying being introduced if God didn't kick them out so they wouldn't have access to the "Tree of Life" making them immortal. So to claim that it makes it so they can physically die is bullshit.Well I think that's a very weak argument. It's literalist and that falls apart under the scrutiny of what it invokes... science. The whole thrust of the bible is spiritual life. It's treasured above physical life. Death spiritually involves eternity... God's realm. Physical death is insignificant.
The Tree of Life is what they were subsequently denied access to. They weren't denied access to this tree at all inside the garden - they had full access. The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is a different tree, that's the one they were denied access to, but chose to anyway - once tasted, never forgotten it seems.
(May 11, 2010 at 9:10 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: You want to use your own interpretation so the story jives with your version of Christianity, be my guest. My point is about the lying, not what you get out of the story. You think it's a story about the human condition, I think it's a story about God not wanting humans to be just like him.My interpretation is strictly Christian. You can pick me up on that if I fail. I'm not perfect.
God cannot lie. If you think that holds, then I'd like to see you back that up. Any respected theological explanation will do. Obviously I'd have great respect for clearly demonstrable, solid logic that disproves the combined logic of all of the Abrahamic faiths.
(May 11, 2010 at 9:10 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: You're arguing that a the interpretation of the story is logical. Last I checked, interpretations are more matters of opinions. Different people can have different interpretations of a story. I am not arguing against logic, but simply your interpretation.Never. Interpretations are tested and verified. the interpretations we're talking about are very old, and have been thoroughly tested thousands of times. Toppling the logic of these interpretations would be extremely rare.