RE: Proving the Bible is false in few words.
May 11, 2010 at 5:30 pm
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2010 at 5:31 pm by Caecilian.)
(May 11, 2010 at 4:48 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:I had a look at the debate. There seemed to be some confusion over the distinction between logical possibility and nomological possibility, but never mind. Surely any entity that is omnipotent is capable of doing anything that a lesser, finite being such as a human can do. Since humans can lie, and commit various acts of evil, then any putative omnipotent entity should also be able to do those things.(May 11, 2010 at 3:35 pm)Caecilian Wrote: Oh...so you don't believe that god is omnipotent then.Yes I do. Omni potent doesn't mean impossi potent. See our excellent debates on the subject here : http://atheistforums.org/forum-25.html
A further point: If god is incapable of doing evil, and is only capable of doing good, then clearly it is not a matter of choice or volition for him to do good. So in what sense can we actually say that he is good at all? It seems to me that goodness lies in the capacity to choose good over evil, which you rule out for god.
Quote:Yes. From the first conception the idea of God is a separation of good and evil. As a positive effect, God is defined as wholly good. This is the Christian concept.
Again, this seems curious to me. You seem to take it for granted that god's goodness is somehow prior to his omnipotence. Why not the other way around?
He who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche