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SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby
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RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby
(July 1, 2014 at 9:22 am)A Theist Wrote: Because Exlax's "what if" arguments simply aren't true. For another, he makes fallacious and stereotypical points based on his hatred for conservatives and on his anti-religious bigotry. It would be nothing more than an endless back and forth argument over ideology.

I'm sorry, how many times have we even interacted on these forums? I can think of one time total, and yet you sure seem to think you know a lot about how my mind works. Mayhaps this is just a vague dodge to avoid having to answer for your own idiocy? It must feel so much better when you can just pretend that nobody who disagrees with you has valid points, that they just hate you personally. But that, like the rest of what you've displayed here, is child logic.

Incidentally, I also had more points than just my three hypotheticals, like in my first post, or my third where I called you out on your spurious invocation of Sandra Fluke. So all this clucking of yours? Rings hollow. Dodgy

Quote:Justice Alito raised those issues that Exlax mentioned and which others were arguing. Basically saying that it was the abortion and certain contraception issues that were being decided on by the SCOTUS. He went on to say that just because this issue was decided on by the Court doesn't mean that employers can opt out of other medical proceedures. Alito based his decision on the "Religious Freedom and Restoration Act" which was signed into law by prez Billy Bob Clinton. He saw that under descriptions defined in that act corporations have to be considered as people too. Furthermore, Hobby Lobby was paying for 16 forms of contraceptives but they objected to paying for four drugs that caused abortions after conception.

Is that seriously your rebuttal? "Don't worry, SCOTUS wasn't applying its own ruling consistently, so it's okay!" Sorry, but special pleading is a fallacy no matter who's using it. Besides, my concern was always down to precedent; maybe companies won't be able to opt out based on the current ruling, but all they need to do is go to court. What's the argument here? What reasons can you give to privilege one baseless religious belief, held hypocritically by cherry picking from a religion and going against actual facts, over another? What good argument can you possibly give against my hypothetical situations?

Because to be clear: so far you haven't given any. Just saying "oh, this ruling only applies to birth control" isn't an argument.

What's also funny is that, while Hobby Lobby sure seems against paying for birth control that they say "causes abortions," they sure don't seem to mind getting paid by drug companies that make actual abortion drugs!

See how "closely held" those religious beliefs are when there's money in it? Rolleyes
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SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - June 30, 2014 at 2:28 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - June 30, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - June 30, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 1, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - June 30, 2014 at 6:23 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Mothonis - June 30, 2014 at 6:35 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jenny A - June 30, 2014 at 7:43 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - June 30, 2014 at 9:03 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - June 30, 2014 at 10:51 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Mothonis - June 30, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jackalope - June 30, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Brian37 - June 30, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - June 30, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Dystopia - June 30, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Mothonis - June 30, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by JuliaL - July 1, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 1, 2014 at 10:08 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Mothonis - July 1, 2014 at 12:26 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 1, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - July 1, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 3, 2014 at 11:34 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 1, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Cato - July 1, 2014 at 8:09 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 1, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 1, 2014 at 6:00 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 2, 2014 at 8:42 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 2, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Mothonis - July 1, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 1, 2014 at 4:13 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 1, 2014 at 3:07 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 2, 2014 at 9:03 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 9:26 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - July 2, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 10:20 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Esquilax - July 2, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 2, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 3, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 3, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 2, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 2, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 2, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 2, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 2, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 11:34 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 2, 2014 at 11:42 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 5:25 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Brakeman - July 2, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 3, 2014 at 7:46 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 3, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 3, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 3, 2014 at 4:31 pm
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RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 3, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 3, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 2, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 6:44 am
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Heywood - July 2, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by vorlon13 - July 2, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Cato - July 2, 2014 at 6:55 pm
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RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 3, 2014 at 12:06 pm
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RE: SCOTUS Rules In Favor Of Hobby Lobby - by Jaysyn - July 7, 2014 at 1:59 pm

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