(July 2, 2014 at 8:42 am)A Theist Wrote: ... far-left...
A bit of an aside but something I'm curious about...
Back in my conservative Republican days, when I used the term "far left", it had a very specific meaning. When I used it, I was referring to "communists" or "communism". And that word also had a specific meaning; it was not just a term used as a pejorative. It referred to an economic and political system where all property was owned by the community (government) and the wealth was (theoretically) distributed evenly to all members of society (or perhaps unevenly but "according to their needs", or such was the theory). I typically only called people "communist" or "socialist" when they used the self-label and/or when they advocated for such a system.
Speaking of "shrill", these days, "socialism" and "communism" have lost all meaning as words bandied around as a nearly meaningless insult. I seriously doubt many of the Teabaggers who plaster such words on badly spelled out protest signs even know what it means. I remember how one libertarian who posted on this forum once thought "socialism" was ANY government regulation of business or social safety net and that any society short of the 19th century Gilded Age was a "socialist society".
"Far left" is also overused to the point where it has no meaning. Obama is "far left", the same president who's best known for a health care reform born from The Heritage Foundation and advocated by previous GOP candidates like Bob Dole (liberals wanted Medicare For All), a president who's economic stimulus package was overburdened with useless tax cuts (liberals wanted an infrastructure reconstruction stimulus package and to raise taxes on the rich), a president who's surrounded himself with Wall Street insiders and has done little or nothing to regulate Wall Street (liberals wanted prosecution of the financial malfeasance that led to the crash of 2008), a president who expanded the drone war and the war in Afghanistan (liberals want to curtail drone strikes), etc. Obama, on close examination of his policies, is not even a liberal.
So I have a question:
What is "moderate left" to you? Please cite examples of moderate left political leaders.
Just wondering.
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