(July 2, 2014 at 7:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:Oh quite easily...(July 2, 2014 at 7:00 am)pocaracas Wrote: Double standard much?
In Iran and other muslim countries people are forbidden from wearing:
- Shorts
- Skirts that show any leg
- T-shirts
- Just any clothing that shows any skin besides face and hands.
These people left their home countries to find a better living abroad and now want to mold the other places of the world to resemble their home countries?!
Stupidity at work!
The law exists, you break it, your visa gets revoked, you go back to wherever you came from.
If you were born in this country, but still want to abide by the stupid religious rules, do so in private. It's a secular country. What you can and can't do in public is regulated. Just as much as you can't wear a face mask, you also can't be naked in public.
How do you get from wearing a face covering to wanting to mould the country into a muslim state?!
Your very own UK already has a few places where Sharia Law is enforced. Look it up. They want the same all over Europe... first in small groups and in secrecy, then out in broad day light and there isn't much that european governments are willing to do to squash these parallel justice systems... France here is one example of trying to do just that... and some people complain!
(July 2, 2014 at 7:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Wearing a face covering is just... wearing a face covering. Its a personal choice, It ain't moulding shit! Now if they were saying EVERYONE should wear one you might have a point. But aside from a few loony jihadist who can be ignored, thats not the case!Bank robbers and other similar no-gooders wear face masks to avoid detection... should such masking be allowed or disallowed?
Could a religious covering be allowed so that bank robberies would be performed by people wearing such covering?
(July 2, 2014 at 7:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: As to what is done in public being regulated, there are generally reasons for that. "because I don't like what it represents" is not a good one! Once you open that pandoras box, what next? Who decides what is an OK religious or political symbol and what is not? Who decides that burkas are not ok, but rasta hats or dreadlocks are. Or Crucifixes. Or those little hats Jews wear. Or the CND logo. Or Greenpeace.I never went there. I remained in the face covering detail which can be an issue of security, defeating your UK-beloved CCTV.
(July 2, 2014 at 7:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I think the difference between a country where you are not allowed to wear shorts and one you are is the freedom to choose. Otherwise the only difference between us and them in regards to clothing is what item of clothing it is! That over there they don't let you wear thing A and over here they don't let you wear thing B. That makes us different to them to be sure, but does it make us any better?My point is that they have no right to feel any indignation for being prevented from wearing something, since their home country's rules also have similar prohibitions.
Hence my mentioning of a double standard.
(July 2, 2014 at 7:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: To me it seems like the exact same principle. Banning an item of clothing because the government does not like what it represents. Its not ok when Iran does it and it makes me deeply uncomfortable when a western democracy does it.Like Beccs said, they made "it all face hiding garments", not just religious ones, not just cultural ones, not just criminal ones, ALL.
What use is CCTV when everyone hides their faces?
Crime would go rampant if anyone was allowed to walk around with their face covered up and the police would have no way of detecting and catching the criminals.
(July 2, 2014 at 7:39 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: I'm quite surprised I'm the only one here who seems to have a problem with this. Are there any other religious symbols or items of clothes people want to be made illegal?
Here's a good one: