(May 11, 2010 at 6:43 pm)Caecilian Wrote:I just explained that. These are Godly attributes... eminating from a perfect being. We're not attributing human virtues. Human virtues don't match up... they're half way up the scale.(May 11, 2010 at 6:03 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Following Aquinas :
You can't attribute human failings to God, because what God creates is lesser than God. The earth isn't God, but god created earth. God is more than the sum of the earth. Working back God is the originating positive force necessarily positive because he couldn't create if he wasn't.
If you can't attribute human failings to god, then what makes you think that you can attribute human virtues to him- goodness, mercy and so on?
(May 11, 2010 at 6:43 pm)Caecilian Wrote:lol yesQuote:Now negativity is the opposite of God. What causes decay is in opposition to God.
We live in a Universe in which decay is steady and unrelenting. Any increase in order can only be local, for within any closed system (such as the Universe), disorder must increase over time. This is the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
Entropy 1 God 0
The bible has that covered tho'
(May 11, 2010 at 6:43 pm)Caecilian Wrote:Schmod isn't all powerful in his logical environment. God is.Quote:God can't choose to do evil, because his nature is pure good. He is the epicentre of goodness... the point at which that choice doesn't exist.
And because of this, the christian god is clearly not omnipotent.
To illustrate my point, lets try a quick thought experiment. Lets think of a being called Schmod. Schmod is omnipotent except that he has no ability to affect anything that is coloured purple. The 'can't affect purple' clause is part of how we define Schmod, so it would be logically contradictory if he could do anything to purple stuff.
Schmod is clearly a very powerful entity. But limited, finite beings can affect purple things, thus any putative omnipotent being must also be able to do so. So by definition Schmod isn't omnipotent.
So fr0d0: how is god different from Schmod?