Is God Moral or Immoral

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He is neither moral nor immoral but unmoral. Hitchens has a good view of this point.

He might have the exact same morals of the people who made him up back in those barbaric times. Funny how that always happens, eh? I've not read Hitchens on that one. Is it in a particular book or article somewhere?

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Those lessons are there to teach certain values. Each individual passage has its meaning, and is there for a reason. To try to break it down and question whether God is moral or not is immaterial, as we are not God ourselves and cannot act as him. Christians are taught to be good people, and not amoral.

The bible professes to be a moral guide. If you are saying that people should not use it as a moral example, then what use is it to believers? No facts because they are all metaphors, no lessons because there are life values but not the morals making them meaningless rules to follow. Christians are not taught to be good people. The bible is not a book of lessons to be good. It teaches the opposite, to hate, to kill and to fear, oh yeah and to love your god on command.

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He starts of the video saying that he is setting out clear examples using the most extreme examples, and then totally fails to demonstrate any discerable bias one way or another.

Yeah, it should have shown the nice things that religions have claimed as their morals, since that completely cancels out the bad, but insignificant things like inquisitions, many genocides, political suppression and current mental torture (through threats of hell) of little children (physical too if you're catholic these days). After all, xtians are also told to be charitable, and some actually are sometimes. If that doesn't make up for my imminent stoning to death for any of a number of noncrimes, I don't know what does, by golly!

God is just. This is what the authors of that bible summised from what was written, as do genrations of Jews since.

So you are completely trusting humans who you never even met from thousands of years ago, on the important issue of whether your god is just? Shouldn't you be making up your own mind on that? Especially since those humans lived in barbaric times, and were likely of the opinion that many types of injustices were just (revenge feels good so it must BE good). Read what your biblegod actually does in the book. Read without the 'everything from this point forward gets an auto justice pass' glasses.

How can you be that ignorant that you think you can state the opposite from what is logically presented? Ah I know.... just call yourself an atheist and look for any wild justification by any extremist nut job that you'd normally want clearly labelled and take on those views without any thought of your own. Way to go. This is your room and those are your straight jackets hanging up over there. I hope you enjoy your stay in hotel irrationality.

What is the opposite to what logical presentation? Huh???