Proving the Bible is false in few words.

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I just explained that. These are Godly attributes... eminating from a perfect being. We're not attributing human virtues. Human virtues don't match up... they're half way up the scale.

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Its weird how you talk about virtues as if they were substances, when in reality they're properties. Goodness can't emanate from something any more than blueness or silliness can. And yes, I know its probably meant as a metaphor, but its misleading rather than informative.

And you still haven't answered my earlier point, which is this:

We attribute goodness to people when they choose morally good courses of action, have good as opposed to bad intentions etc. If we had no choice but to make good decisions (if we really could not do otherwise), then would we really be good ourselves? I would say not- we'd just be ethical automatons.

God, as you describe him, is an ethical automaton.

Schmod isn't all powerful in his logical environment. God is.

Well, thats disputable, but I don't see the point in arguing about Schmod. Whats important is that you're now saying that god is all powerful in his logical environment. Since god's logical environment isn't isomorphic with the logical environment of the universe, you're therefore conceding that god is not all powerful within the universe. In other words, he isn't omnipotent.

Posted by Rwandrall - Today 15:53
To those interested, i just tested the reasoning i explained in the OP, and it works ! i have managed to make a hardcore creationist admit that the Bible was at least partly written by men and that the Earth is not 6000 years old.