RE: Definition of Atheism
July 4, 2014 at 8:17 am
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2014 at 8:18 am by Dystopia.)
(July 4, 2014 at 4:07 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: 1) Atheism: Lack of belief in the existence of gods
2) Strong atheist: One who believes no gods exist
3) Gnostic atheist: One who claims to know no gods exist (not sure this synonymous with strong atheism)
4) Agnostic atheist: One who neither believes nor knows God doesn't exist?
5) Anti-theist: You guys seem to treat this as synonymous with strong atheism, even though it's generally synonymous with being anti-religious.
Atheism - The lack of belief in the existence of gods or a positive disbelieve, it depends
Strong atheist - I think this is more or less the same as Gnostic atheist, one who claims to know no gods exist
Agnostic atheist - One who lacks belief in gods but doesn't claim to know a god exists or not
Anti-theist - Against theism on a broad spectrum and not just religion. Being anti-religion is being against religion solely (mainly organized religion) but not against people believing in god per se.
Quote:Atheism: The belief, to some degree, that no gods exist
Weak Atheist: The belief that gods probably don't exist
Strong atheism: The belief that no gods exist. One could even claim that one knows this, given sufficient justification, I think.
Agnostic atheist: I think this would have to be more or less synonymous with weak atheism if it is to be coherent.
Agnostic: The belief that the proposition of deities existing is an epistemic boundary, either in principle or for the time being.
Atheism - Lack of belief in gods (at least)
Weak atheism - The same as agnostic atheism (most atheists are like this)
Agnostic - Someone who doesn't know if gods exist, but being an agnostic doesn't equal being an atheist
To clarify, an atheist is either someone who lacks belief in gods (most common position, aka agnostic atheism), or, when taken to the 'next level', someone who affirmatively says no gods exist/an active disbelieve in gods. It will just depend on the atheist. Being an anti-theist on the other hand doesn't make you a gnostic, you can be an anti-theist and an agnostic
This is also a problem regarding language. In portuguese for instance, saying 'lack of belief' is not common because the word 'lack' doesn't have a direct translation, therefore people just say 'não acredito em deus' that means 'I don't believe in god', most of the times this means 'I lack belief', that's what atheists mean to say, but since it is more common to say the phrase I just told you, they end up saying it most of the time
In english I don't know if there are any terminology problems with natives.
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