(May 12, 2010 at 2:37 pm)Watson Wrote: Einsetin's theory of relativity predicted black holes before we discovered black holes. Lo and behold, we have discovered that black holes do, in fact, exist. By using his theory, Einstein was able to predict that something, in this case black holes, was possible or would happen without knowing if it really was thee or not.Einstein had lots of varifiable measurements and math to indicate the probability of his theory, in fact those things are what made him think of the possibility. You have zero measurements or any other indicators whatsoever to even suggest the possibility of deities.
Quote:Similarly, I can predict the way someone will act or not act if they deny God.How they react to the societal expectation to believe in gods doesn't matter as far as whether the gods are real or not.
Quote:This is where the concept of 'free will' comes in. You have a choice whether to believe or not. But you are born with the clearest image possible of the world around you, and so the choice is damn enar instinctual.The instinct when presented with the world around you is to believe that the world is real. But with godbeliefs, instinct only comes into play regarding the instinct to trust what your own family/species is teaching you. If they are teaching you that magic gods exist, then your instinct would be to give that more credibility than if you thought it up yourself.
Quote:I understand this. When you were young you chose not to believe, as somewhere down the line you were exposed to things that you chose to put more stock in than faith, belief, and God.It wasn't a choice. The default was a state of not having any thoughts whatsoever about invisible universe creators. When the idea was presented to me, and obviously without any proof or even indicators, well, of course the default then is to conclude it isn't real but be open to any evidence showing otherwise. Regarding faith, why would I want to put any stock in it at all, much less more than I give real things? Faith is deciding to believe in things there is no evidence for. It's choosing to predetermine the facts before you know what they really are, and when you do find out what they really are, faith will make you refuse to accept the newer, more accurate information. Faith is wilfull stupidity.