(May 13, 2010 at 9:16 am)tackattack Wrote: Was that an atheist using the second law of thermodynamics in relationship to the universe in a religious debate...
hmmm where's Void when you need him
I'm not sure what you think the problem with using scientific theories (such as the second law) in a religious debate is. Evolution, for example, figures very prominently in a lot of religious debates. If Biology is OK, then why not Physics?
Funnily enough, there's an argument against the existence of god which is based on the second law. The simplified version runs like this:
1. God is a highly ordered entity.
2. God preceded the Big Bang.
3. In order to create the Big Bang, god must've been more ordered than that which he created.
4. However, by the second law the statistical probability of the Big Bang being preceded by a more orderly state of affairs approaches zero.
5. Therefore god doesn't exist.
I don't think that its a very strong argument, since a theist can simply argue that the second law doesn't apply to god.
He who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche