(July 5, 2014 at 11:23 am)Jenny A Wrote: Getting back to the original point of this thread. . . .?Which is: why choose one God over another?
(July 5, 2014 at 11:23 am)Jenny A Wrote: The question I have to ask is would you ever turn yourself in such mental knots to defend the truth of any other book?Yes. I believe logic to be reliable despite the numerous 'alleged contradictions' logicians and philosophers have amoungst themselves.
(July 5, 2014 at 1:32 pm)Irrational Wrote: Having been a former apologist myself, it is useless trying to convince a convicted apologist that there are contradictions in the Bible as they always figure out how to explain away the discrepancies.I'm not 'explaining away the difference' in names between the two geneaologies, I admit there is a difference in names. I'm merely pointing out that one list of names is Jesus' ancestors on His father's side, and one list of names is His ancestors on His mother's side. Do you deny the accuracy of the lists?
I used to rely on the "explanation" that Luke's genealogy of Jesus is Mary's as well in order to explain away the difference in names between the two genealogies listed in the NT.
An absurd and unwarranted explanation, but yeah.
The existence of a difference does not necessitate an irreconcilable contradiction.
(July 5, 2014 at 1:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -as a former apologist, care to put that idea to the test? I have a discrepency in mind. The discrepency between what we might call our observational experience of reality and what we might call a religious experience of reality. If you can explain why our experiences and observations cannot be trusted, with regards to religion - whilst our experience of religion -can- be trusted...simultaneously.........without invoking solipsim (thereby creating more questions while answering none) - then I'll concede.Could you clarify what you mean in saying that our 'experiences and observations cannot be trusted, with regards to religion - whilst our experience of religion -can- be trusted?'
Please define what you mean by solipsim.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?