(May 13, 2010 at 3:25 pm)The_Flying_Skeptic Wrote: Under your definition of 'a strong argument' against theism, there are no strong arguments - since theists can simply argue that ______ does not apply. Take Watson, another member here, as exhibit A. Watson will go so far as to say that not even what is written in the Bible about the Christian deity, applies to the Christian deity: http://atheistforums.org/thread-3679-pos...l#pid70154 'insane, i know'
I won't deny that you make a very good point here. Its quite true that the theists will deny (or affirm) pretty much any sort of bullshit in order to keep their illusions intact.
Personally, I'd tend to see philosophical arguments against god as being more effective than empirical ones. The theists generally have a very ill-formed picture of how god relates to the material world, and this gives them plenty of wriggle-room to engage in sophistry. Their philosophical committments re. god's nature are much clearer and more inflexible, and so its harder for them to fudge things.
He who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche