The You Can't Make This Shit Up Department

[Dystopia]

Because fascism can't exist without taking away your rights, in fascism your rights are submitted to the well being of the national and you lose individual liberties,

Er, you've been arguing that individual liberties, such as freedom of speech and association, be taken away for the well being of the democratic society. You're pretty much saying, we can't let people talk about fascism, because fascism won't let people talk freely.

ETA: I see that CD beat me to it.

There seems to be a huge misunderstanding here... Racist, fascist or nazi propaganda is not an individual liberty to express yourself, it's considered a crime here, not a single right is absolute, from the moment your right puts in abstract danger the rights of others it is restricted. I get it that things don't work that way in the US, it's just a different perspective.

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Between the right to free speech and public security we prefer the later because it guarantees democracy's sustainability.

The only public security limitation on our free speech has to do with outing government secrets you've sworn not to reveal.

I guess we see things differently in europe. I'll explain it better, our constitution doesn't use amendments, we use the revision act, politicians can change the constitution to fit society's needs. However there is an article with something called 'Revision Limits', with a set of things the government cannot change in the constitution even if they revise it. I'll give you the primary limits - You can't compromise sovereignty, democracy, you can't change the form of government (republic), you can't take away people's rights that have been established (both social, political, personal or workers rights), you can't abolish representative democracy... These are just some limits. Once again to make it clear, here it is not a right to free speech to propagate fascist, it is considered a crime just like robbery, murder or offenses to physical integrity are. I have a question, is it a crime in the US to burn your flag?

How would you feel if you were a jew and someone made an anti Semitic protest humiliating your kind?

Substitute the word atheist or woman for the Jew, and I do have an inkling how it feels, though perhaps not with the same feeling of fear. But peoples' feelings aren't so important as freedom of speech. If you can't freely discuss, what you have isn't really a democracy because not all ideas can be considered by the people.

Here you don't have a reason to fear or anything alike because protest that promote discrimination and inequality are not allowed, promoting racism or sexual inequality is a crime of incitement to hate. (same for homophobia)

What is important is that the Constitution protects a number of rights from the government: free speech, freedom of religion, freedom from the establishment by government of religion, freedom of assembly, equal rights under the law regardless of race, sex, or religion. And yes those are all limits to democracy.

how does the government want to protect racial and sexual equality by allowing people to promote nazism or fascism? Seems contradicting

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I study cases too because jurisprudence has some power, but I spend most time solving fictional or real life cases on paper applying the law. But this really isn't about memorizing, I can take my codes and laws to exams of course, no one would ask us to memorize 2500 articles, it's more about knowing what each article means and what they regulated, where they apply, and the theories that support them.

Lucky! We don't get to take anything to bar exams but a pencil and our I.D. (We walked uphill in the snow both ways too). Seriously, it doesn't sound all that much different. Learning the basics of each area of law so you know where to begin to research it is what law school and the bar exams are all about.

We have an added twist you not be really aware of, or at least not aware of the importance of. That's that every U.S. State is a separate government. The substance of the law changes substantially as you move from state to state, though method of researching and applying it doesn't much. The exception is Louisiana which has civil law rather than common law much like most of Europe though case law still informs application of federal law there. Whether state or federal law applies, and occasionally which state's law applies is one of the very first questions you have to ask when deciding considering a legal question here.

A quick question, do you think it is worth to go study abroad for a semester in a country like england that uses the commonlaw system?