(July 10, 2014 at 3:36 pm)Blackout Wrote:Jenny Wrote:That's true here too, but only if it's an immediate incitement to crime.Same here, but again I guess for us fascist associations are a direct incitement to crime, just think about paramilitary groups used by former leaders that persecuted the opposition,
I don't think you got just how immediate, immediate is. Throw a rock at that man now is immediate. We think people ought to throw rocks at that kind of man is not immediate. But even in that case, it is the persons who said the words and who have thrown the stones that have committed a crime. The group, could not be banned.
(July 10, 2014 at 3:36 pm)Blackout Wrote: we don't, we have the right to criticize, not insult. If I call someone a cunt or a bitch on national tv can't I get sued?Nope. Those are matters of opinion and not actionable. Though if you call them something factual like a thief, you might get sued for it. The truth however is a defense to libel. Further politicians and other public figures have lessor rights when it comes to suing for libel. Google Times v. Sullivan.
(July 10, 2014 at 3:36 pm)Blackout Wrote:Rebellions are illegal, revolutions aren't. It's a matter of who wins.Jenny Wrote:There are many Americans who don't understand why we have the right to bear arms. The NRA will tell you it is so that the people will retain the ability to rebel against the government. I'm not so sure. It's a contentious issue here.Rebellion or revolution is not legal, but of course that's usually how it is, you can't make a revolution or coup d' etat, but this is useless, since in practice if we abolished our government and made a new constitution the old one would become ineffective, and a revolution usually means a new constitution
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