Great bible teachings!

[John_S3V]

As soon as you start saying that the bible may be wrong about some things you have to admit that based on the lack of evidence to support pretty well anything in the bible that it could very well be wrong about everything.
It is, in fact, wrong about some things. But from a Christian's perspective, this is just human falliability. Observing God in the real world reveals which of the Bible's doctrines are right and which are wrong.

You seem to feel that you have the authority to observe when and where god shows up in the real world and can then decide which biblical teachings are correct based on your own judgement. Bravo, you're no different than any other human trying to discern right from wrong. And you know what, I don't blame you a bit. I tried discerning right from wrong, without the bible of course, for a long time and it's actually quite difficult and in my opinion impossible. I hope one day you'll realize though that right and wrong is subjective and that there is no god to back up what you personally believe.

Perhaps, if you reach that point, you'll recognize that all humans are seeking out happiness and that no man is truly wrong nor evil. There are simply times when men infringe on your happiness in the pursuit of their own and times wen men either compliment or have no effect on the pursuit of your happiness when in pursuit of their own. And, as everybody knows, you can't make everybody happy. Therefore, at times, you yourself have infringed on people's happiness in pursuit of your own. That's likely happened many times on this forum. It doesn't make you a bad person, it simply makes you human like the rest of us. Of course, life is much more satisfying once you surround yourself with people that compliment your pursuit of happiness. But, life doesn't always work out idealistically.

You can't say in one sentence that, "you could burn every holy book ever made and every written account of any God and it wouldn't make a bit of difference to God" and then say you "think it's a usefull tool in the history of understanding more about God." Why not? Because the god you worship is the god in the bible. Without the bible you would not believe in YHWH.
The God tack and I worship is the God written about in the Bible, not the God from the Bible.

The god you worship is not the god written about in the bible, because you do not believe that the god written about in the bible is the god who told people to stone their rebellious sons. The god that the bible is written about is not your god. Your god consists of elements from the bible's god, YHWH that were selected by you which makes your god a subjective, personal god.

The problem with that is that people do a lot of things instinctly and I don't see how instinct or mental programming proves god.
It doesn't 'prove' God, except in the subjective sense. Belief in the Holy Spirit, and a soul for that matter, explains subjectively to a person where, how, and why they are able to do and feel certain things they are able to.

Your subjective senses are of no use to me in the sense of proof unless I can somehow read your mind and view your memories which I cannot do at this current time.

Yes, many people do unto others as they would want done to them, but that's called 'Empathy'. There's nothing spiritual about empathy. It appears that humans didn't have a whole lot of empathy a few thousand years ago. But, for the sake of sustaining the speices, empathy started to flourish.
And the Christian belief is that empathy is something gifted to us by God.

-_- Rather than making Adam and Eve with very strong empathy he choses to give humanity a higher dose of it at a later time... ? Don't tell me he works in mysterious ways. If god decided to give humanity doses of empathy later on then I can't quite figure out why he didn't make Eve without curiosity or a hunger for power, because then she never would have wanted the apple and the whole sin thing wouldn't be a problem. Ridiculous to me, mysteriously enlightening to you.

If you construct some one without empathy you have a psychopath. A psychopath doesn't have remorse for doing bad things. Poetically speaking, his heart tells him to kill people and he likes that.
I couter that I do not, personally, believe in such people. Not as 'people', at least.

Then I counter that you're living in a dream world. These are people. They were created by sperm and an egg, were born as a human baby and then grew up with an urge to kill people.

It's not like I'm making up hypothetical stuff. This people are real. Rapists usually enjoy raping, serial killers often enjoy killing and kleptomaniacs enjoy stealing.
Yes, but look at the usual mental state of such people; they are compulsive, emotionally unhealthy, and generally unwell in the head. This is very telling of the affect such behavior has on the human psyche.

I'm not saying that these people's state of minds are healthy, but I don't think 'unhealthy' = 'evil'. Plus, I don't think people that partake in irregular pleasures or socially unaccepted activities are necessarily unhealthy. Mental health is still a grey area as far as human understanding goes. Until we know more about how the brain operates we can't always say for certain what activities and behaviors are damaging to the psyche. But, I'll repeat that I do not find that unhealthy psyche = evil.

Who am I to tell these people that they're on the path to moral decay when they've either been conditioned or born with unorthodox desires?
Because something tells you inside that what they are doing is 'wrong', right? That's the best possible reason I can think of for locking them away. You see the affect their behavior has on themselves and others, ad you want to help them put an end to their behavior by feeling better or in some way putting a stop to it.

I see that in some cases their behavior is corrupting both to themselves and others. but, I still don't think of it as morally, divinely or spiritually wrong/evil. My empathy incites pity in me for the people who suffer. But, since I do not possess any concept of self-righteousness I am not inclined to think, 'Evil sinners will be cast into the fiery depths of hell for their wrongful deeds.'

I don't even understand how these people could exist if the biblical god was real. Course, I'm not saying we shouldn't lock these people up. They're infringing on people's happiness and the majority of people don't want killers and rapists running around. Regardless, as far as I'm concerned these people are proof that there's no such thing as 'inner morality' or a 'core knowledge of right and wrong'. These people have a completely different take on ethics all together.

And again; look at the affect their life-styles has on their state of mind and on other's well-being, as well. People react to these things because of the inner morality and core knowledge of right and wrong. At least, that is my belief.

No, people react to these things because of empathy and self-defense which I do not believe to be gifts from god, because they would be pointless gifts when he could've simply created us without the capacity to inflict suffering on one another.