@Zen- nor are there any accounts that are of him during his actual life to my knowledge.
Sleeping Demon- And I supose anything penned by a Christian hand is completely irrelevant to the conversation? To answer your question about josephus, do you know he didn't believe jesus was the messiah? Perhaps he was depicting the socially accepted depiction of him. That would be the earliest actual account of Jesus, unless you count the prophesies of his coming. You're also precluding any possibility of anyone who had seen/heard him from existing a mere 40 years later. The bible also has Moses living 120 years I believe. Josephus was born in 6 and wrote "antiquities of the Jews" in 90 something I think. I think you're exagerating the possibility that they arne't first hand accounts, and I think I've used your own quotes to show that.
Your analogy is a little off to me too. Superman would be considered by many to be a hero. Whether you die or not isn't as relevant to your image as what you've done in that life.
Sleeping Demon- And I supose anything penned by a Christian hand is completely irrelevant to the conversation? To answer your question about josephus, do you know he didn't believe jesus was the messiah? Perhaps he was depicting the socially accepted depiction of him. That would be the earliest actual account of Jesus, unless you count the prophesies of his coming. You're also precluding any possibility of anyone who had seen/heard him from existing a mere 40 years later. The bible also has Moses living 120 years I believe. Josephus was born in 6 and wrote "antiquities of the Jews" in 90 something I think. I think you're exagerating the possibility that they arne't first hand accounts, and I think I've used your own quotes to show that.
Your analogy is a little off to me too. Superman would be considered by many to be a hero. Whether you die or not isn't as relevant to your image as what you've done in that life.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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