RE: Examples of the atrocities caused by Islam
July 13, 2014 at 2:18 am
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2014 at 2:19 am by Zidneya.)
(July 13, 2014 at 2:00 am)OceanWave Wrote: Meanwhile said posters overlook the fact murdering is against Islam as the Quran states.Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
You were saying?
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Oh and if you are planing to use the "Out of context therefore doesn't count card."
Because I have the feeling you are gonna do that.
(July 13, 2014 at 2:00 am)OceanWave Wrote: That's what happens when you have no truth to rely on..you start to spin things yourself with no factual basis.The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.