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Jesus's sacrifice
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RE: Jesus's sacrifice
(May 16, 2010 at 7:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: Shell B, Tackattack has made it clear that sin is not having Gods will in your decisions.

I don't feel like anything was made clear. Hypothetically, if I build a robot and then that robot somehow harms someone or "sins", would it be the robot's fault or mine? Who was behind the crime? It is my feeling that it would be my fault. Just because the robot didn't do exactly what I told it to do, doesn't remove the blame from me.

It's like god saying "Well, that wasn't in the programming." Yet, he supposedly created EVERYTHING. But, when it's not convenient he only created virtually everything. What the fuck is that?

Taking the blame off of god is the same principle as a parent abusing a child and then acting all butthurt when the child acts out.

(May 16, 2010 at 7:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: When God created the universe it was perfect there was no sin. Then Satan (Lucifer) defied God bringing sin into existance. The sin was not a part of the created universe at this point in time because God and the angels lived outside of the created phyisical universe and sin was contained there.

If god created the universe, then he created everything in it. Paul put it best,
(May 16, 2010 at 1:22 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: the very fact that something exists demands that nothingness also exist (for lack of a better word). So, if god created existence, then he simultaneously created non-existence.

(May 16, 2010 at 7:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: When Adam and Eve disobeyed God (not having Gods will in their decision) they allowed the same sin that Lucifer had brought into existance into the created universe. With this ungodly will now part of creation it changed everything. Thus the need for God to become as sin and die a mortals death for our redemption. No wonder God was so upset with man but in His everlasting love He did what was best for mankind.

I don't even want to touch this part because it astounds me that people believe this crap. Did what's best for mankind? He made apples delicious and tempting and told Adam and Eve not to eat them, just because he felt like making an asinine rule. Do you make rules for your children just so you have an excuse to punish them? Fuck that. This story has always pissed me off. god sounds like a mentally abusive prick in this one.

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Jesus's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - May 15, 2010 at 7:26 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Dotard - May 15, 2010 at 7:49 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 15, 2010 at 11:13 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - May 15, 2010 at 11:22 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 15, 2010 at 12:03 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by KichigaiNeko - May 16, 2010 at 12:29 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tavarish - May 15, 2010 at 11:14 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 15, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - May 15, 2010 at 12:01 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 16, 2010 at 12:21 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 12:30 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 16, 2010 at 7:49 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 8:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 17, 2010 at 12:22 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 17, 2010 at 1:10 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by KichigaiNeko - May 16, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 1:40 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 16, 2010 at 3:50 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Zen Badger - May 16, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 16, 2010 at 9:25 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 9:40 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 17, 2010 at 1:16 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by SleepingDemon - May 16, 2010 at 10:52 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 1:14 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by SleepingDemon - May 16, 2010 at 2:27 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 1:22 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 3:40 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 5:25 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 5:10 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 5:24 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 9:47 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 9:52 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:13 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:24 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 10:04 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:28 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:32 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:38 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:53 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:57 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 11:02 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:04 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 11:07 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 11:12 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:14 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:16 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:24 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:28 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:39 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:43 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 17, 2010 at 12:00 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 17, 2010 at 12:09 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:49 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:53 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 17, 2010 at 12:25 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 17, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 17, 2010 at 1:16 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 17, 2010 at 1:24 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 17, 2010 at 11:24 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Dotard - May 18, 2010 at 9:26 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 19, 2010 at 12:49 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 19, 2010 at 1:41 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Dotard - May 19, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 19, 2010 at 10:52 am

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