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Jesus's sacrifice
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RE: Jesus's sacrifice
Truly I didn't restate and when I did apparently it didn't stick so it wasn't clarified. She put her post in while I was writing another and I went back to edit and I guess it got dropped. I'll do it here:

(May 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm)Shell B Wrote:
(May 16, 2010 at 3:50 am)tackattack Wrote: @ ShellB - atheism is the absence of evidence for God's existence, darkness is the absence of light, sin is the absence of God's will in your choices... I think that's a pretty easy concept.

No, tack. Christianity is the absence of evidence for god's existence. Atheism is a lack of belief in god(s).

Yes, darkness is the absence of light.

Sin is the absence of god's will in your choices? Okay, well, god created absence, light and, therefore, sin.

It's not that the concept is difficult, it's that it's erroneous.[/hide]

you can't create the lack of something, only the something that fills that lack.

1-darkness is the absence of light
2-atheism is the lack of belief in God due to an absence of appropriate evidence
3-theism is the belief in God due to faith
4-hell is a place or state of mind absent of God for eternity
5-sin is the choice that is absent of God's desire for us
6- evil is the options we have that don't promote us towards God's plan


I hope that 's a little clearer. I think I see your point with the robo analogy. If God created us imperfect, why would he not share the blame of our inequity? Here's my take on this. He gives us every option so that we can lear what is truly good and what is truly evil, to learn his plan. He wants us to evolve and succeed in this endeavor, so he gives us revelations of his will and tools to gauge right vs wrong. It is up to us to define right and wrong sufficiently and grow as a society. I do not see religion as a hinderance to this purpose. I do see a lot of things wrong with religion, especially where it delves outside of the realms of God and into mankind.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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Jesus's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - May 15, 2010 at 7:26 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Dotard - May 15, 2010 at 7:49 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 15, 2010 at 11:13 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - May 15, 2010 at 11:22 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 15, 2010 at 12:03 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by KichigaiNeko - May 16, 2010 at 12:29 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tavarish - May 15, 2010 at 11:14 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 15, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Ace Otana - May 15, 2010 at 12:01 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 16, 2010 at 12:21 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 12:30 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 16, 2010 at 7:49 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 8:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Godschild - May 17, 2010 at 12:22 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 17, 2010 at 1:10 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by KichigaiNeko - May 16, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 1:40 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 16, 2010 at 3:50 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Zen Badger - May 16, 2010 at 7:41 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 16, 2010 at 9:25 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 9:40 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 17, 2010 at 1:16 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by SleepingDemon - May 16, 2010 at 10:52 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 1:14 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 1:23 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by SleepingDemon - May 16, 2010 at 2:27 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 1:22 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 3:40 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 3:46 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2010 at 5:25 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 5:10 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Paul the Human - May 16, 2010 at 5:24 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 9:47 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 9:52 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:00 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:13 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:24 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 16, 2010 at 10:04 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:28 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:32 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:38 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 10:53 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 10:57 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 11:02 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:04 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 11:07 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Shell B - May 16, 2010 at 11:12 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:14 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:16 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:24 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:28 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:39 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:43 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 17, 2010 at 12:00 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 17, 2010 at 12:09 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 16, 2010 at 11:49 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 16, 2010 at 11:53 pm
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 17, 2010 at 12:25 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 17, 2010 at 12:44 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 17, 2010 at 1:16 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Watson - May 17, 2010 at 1:24 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 17, 2010 at 11:24 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Dotard - May 18, 2010 at 9:26 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by tackattack - May 19, 2010 at 12:49 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 19, 2010 at 1:41 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Dotard - May 19, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: Jesus's sacrifice - by Minimalist - May 19, 2010 at 10:52 am

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