RE: A discussion around family table.
May 18, 2010 at 8:50 am
(May 17, 2010 at 4:36 pm)tackattack Wrote: Yes I have read the Bible
So, where are the good parts? I've read most of it. Nothing presented to me as moral and good by any of you christians actually IS good. I'm still waiting..... Oh yeah, that one stolen sentence doesn't count about do unto others. That was stolen from other philosophies, ones that say the same thing. The bible just surrounded the sentence with cruelty and horrors and lies about magic filling the rest of the book.
Quote:As you can see it does actually say the word homosexual.. which is an improper use of modern language not in context with the closest approximation of the original, IMO. I posted thouroughly in another thread my problems with homosexuality being a sin in the Bible.
The modern translations don't use the original wordings. You wondered why the older ones had the word. They don't. The newer translations/revisions use it.
Quote:I am not forcing any theocracies on you, so lumping me with some percieved threat you feel is counterproductive. I actually wholly push for seperation of church and state when I share my political views in public.
I never said you were personally doing it. Just that your god licking buddies would, and that I think you would let them.
Quote:To answer your questions:
Why does your god bring the hellbound back to life to make them go through that? You can believe that your consciousness continues after you die or you don't you're mixing the 2 concepts here.
So, even if their minds were somehow still functional without cells and electricity, why would your god punish them? Why not just take everyone into his heaven club? And if he really doesn't want them there, just send them to wherever dogs go when they die. Why punish? The bible answers that. Your godboy is vengeful, angry, jealous, etc. Great personality points, eh? You worship the devil you believe in. You just don't realize it yet.
Quote:The consciousness though should be accountable for it's choices.
That's pretty sick that you would accept blame for stuff beyond the natural consequences of what happens during your life. There is no bad natural consequence for not feeling the love emotion about someone, yet your jealous egotistical god punishes people for not loving him.
Quote:If you would be so kind as to re-list the laws which you feel you could be stoned for doing, so I don't have to wade through all the cynical and snarky commentary then I'd be happy to address them. The only one adressed in this post was homosexuality.
Well, let's see, the homo thing only counts if I feel like being with another woman, but maybe I feel like playing with a friendly dick or two that day, what happens then? Well, I'm not married, so if I have some consentual nonharmful fun, you christians are ordered by god to kill me. Stoning or just death some other way, whatever, I'm going to count nonstoning death sentences too. Maybe I feel like holding another god before your god, so I dance and laugh publicly about my flower garden fairies. Oops, death again. Oh no, I'm wearing both hemp and cotton, death again, my field has tomatoes and basil, both next to each other, I hope my will is still in my desk. I talked back to my parents a few times. I've collected herbs and made teas out of them, making me a witch, it goes on and on. If you really have read the bible, and you don't keep deciding it means the opposite of what it actually says, you will see my imminent death many times over. There are also risks of further death even if I were to blindly follow all the godrules. Let's say I go to market and on the way I am attacked and raped. Let's say there are only 3 witnesses who rescue me afterwards. I will be killed for adultery. Why did your god make these hideous laws? Why would you follow this religion and trick yourself into thinking they don't reeeeeally mean what they say clearly in words?