Spare the rod, spoil the child

[Jacob(smooth)]

Give me a motherfucking break dickhead. The evidence is so easily accessible it shouldn't even need to be presented, like I said several pages ago. You're the one being ignorant here. You're the one being intellectually dishonest and lazy. Go fuck yourself.

Lol

Well.

I admire your evangelical zeal!

However as I and others have said, the research is a bit more complex than "it's always bad". Sociological research always is. And whilst the cogency and undoubted reliability of Wikipedia is of course indisputable, and notwithstanding your strength of feeling I'm afraid reality is a little more complex than your monochrome view. One may also consider the implications of research as I'm sure the researchers do.

On the topic of research, your charmingly polarised misstatement of my point, that "all the research must be wrong" is a little crass. As you said yourself ALL the research did not say that corperal punishment is bad in all circumstances. And, in case you missed my repeated point, there is a world of difference between beating children with a belt and smacking them.

I'm sure it's true that minor physical violence can increase and become abuse. It's also true that social drinking can escalate into alcoholism. That does not mean that social drinking is bad, and any research which considered social drinking in the same study as alcoholism would be a rather crude measure.
Not so?

Please don't go Napoléon. Although consistent with the theist playbook of "it's self evident" "go find the evidence yourself" and "stream of abuse" you saying "it's not Even worth debating, it's just the TRUTH" and giving u p on the conversation would be a shame. And of course would rob me of the joy your cogent and we'll thought out, if somewhatshrill, arguments

Why not pick a study in particular and we can examine it in detail. See if it really shows what you think it shows? .