Spare the rod, spoil the child

[Napoléon]

Lol

Well.

I admire your evangelical zeal!

Get fucked.

However as I and others have said, the research is a bit more complex than "it's always bad". Sociological research always is. And whilst the cogency and undoubted reliability of Wikipedia is of course indisputable, and notwithstanding your strength of feeling I'm afraid reality is a little more complex than your monochrome view. One may also consider the implications of research as I'm sure the researchers do.

"It's a lot more complicated than that" - Al Murray.

On the topic of research, your charmingly polarised misstatement of my point, that "all the research must be wrong" is a little crass. As you said yourself ALL the research did not say that corperal punishment is bad in all circumstances. And, in case you missed my repeated point, there is a world of difference between beating children with a belt and smacking them.

I really just don't see why I'm continuing this. You just don't get it.

I'm sure it's true that minor physical violence can increase and become abuse.

That's because it is true.

It's also true that social drinking can escalate into alcoholism. That does not mean that social drinking is bad, and any research which considered social drinking in the same study as alcoholism would be a rather crude measure.
Not so?

Yet again you miss the point completely. This is such a fail of an analogy. To say social drinking is anywhere near similar to spanking a child is laughable.

Please don't go Napoléon. Although consistent with the theist playbook of "it's self evident" "go find the evidence yourself" and "stream of abuse" you saying "it's not Even worth debating, it's just the TRUTH" and giving u p on the conversation would be a shame. And of course would rob me of the joy your cogent and we'll thought out, if somewhatshrill, arguments

The more you call me a theist the more I am getting significantly pissed off with you. I have no interest in debating you.

Why not pick a study in particular and we can examine it in detail. See if it really shows what you think it shows? .

Why not do it yourself?


With that, I'm really done with this. I started off only giving my two cents and have only tried to correct the idiocy people in this thread have displayed. Whoever wants to carry on believing that corporal punishment, and spanking is okay, well more fool you. It's your kids I feel sorry for.