A discussion around family table.

[Scented Nectar]

Good is of course relative, but I think all of it's good for a read, I've read worse. Do I need to quote all the exploits of Jesus/ disciples doing good deeds, healing, helping, filling the needs of the outcast and needy?

Sure, if these good acts cancel out the bad ones. They say Hitler treated dogs well, you know. Does that make everything else he did ok?

The court must not kill anybody on circumstantial evidence Ex. 23:7

It actually says "Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked." Where do you see anything about circumstantial evidence? Maybe you should stop listening to the preacher man and read the thing yourself. So far, that quote fully upholds killing people for bible 'crimes'.

The court must not punish anybody who was forced to do a crime Deut. 22:26

It says nothing of the sort. It says "But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:" They are referring to not punishing a woman for being a rape victim only if she is betrothed. If she is not, then she is still murdered by the godlovers.

Judge righteously Lev. 19:15

That completely upholds the immoral laws, since they are considered righteous and god-commanded. "Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour."

The court must not execute through a majority of one; at least a majority of two is required Ex. 23:2

It actually says "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment", the last part sounding like an order to not speak out against what the multitude have judged.

Lend to the poor and destitute Ex. 22:24

That one actually says "And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless." Wow! Nice example of goodness. What lesson do we learn from this? Will the wrathfully killed person become meat lent to the poor as charity? WTF?

Not to press them for payment if you know they don't have it Ex. 22:24

That is the same verse as above. Should I infer that after feeding the dead body to the poor, to tell them not to bother about paying you back someday?

Not to insult or harm anybody with words Lev. 25:17

Good thing it does not actually say that, since that would destroy all free speech, but let's see what it really says. "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:for I am the LORD your God." Nothing indicating what would be oppressive, so it must be concluded that they mean anything against the god commands. The second part is a command to have an emotion, fear. Do you often love people you fear? I don't, but then again, I've never had Stockholm's Syndrome.

Not to cheat a convert monetarily Ex. 22:20

Good thing it doesn't say that, since that would make it ok to cheat non-converts. So, what does it actually say? "He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." Wow, again! It's even worse than cheating those who are of a different religion, the real quote says to destroy them.

Not to insult or harm a convert with words Ex. 22:20

More suppression of free speech (if it's critical of converts), or it would be if that were what it actually says. It says the same as the above one.

So, what's going on here? Are you a poe? Have I been fooled by my very first poe encounter? I feel honoured.

As you can see it does actually say the word homosexual..

The english translations from KJV on do until you get to the more very recent translation which try and get back to the original meaning.

Searching the KJV on the word homosexual turned up nothing. It does not appear there.

The consciousness though should be accountable for it's choices.

That's pretty sick that you would accept blame for stuff beyond the natural consequences of what happens during your life. There is no bad natural consequence for not feeling the love emotion about someone, yet your jealous egotistical god punishes people for not loving him.

I'm not following your rant. Could you please define "stuff beyond the natural consequences of what happens during your life" So I have some reference as to what you're talking about.

If you don't love god while alive, the worst natural consequence is nothing at all. However the religion-caused consequence that results from not having a god belief is ostracisation and possible execution depending on where you live. That's while alive. If your god were real, then on top of that would be the eternal punishment. You haven't explained why your god doesn't just let the people he doesn't want in heaven just die. Why does he make them suffer? Oh yeah, he admits that he is wrathful and jealous and all kinds of nice personality traits like that. You are a devil worshipper. I've never really conversed with one before, so this is interesting. Can you prove to me that your devildeity exists? You see, I don't believe in devils either.

All the laws you quoted are mosianic laws. Messianic Judaism is adherent to those laws verbatim, Christianity is adherent to them where they agree with the heart and societies laws. Where the different sects of Christianity differ is in their doctrine, some (I would say few) but not a majority adhere fundamentally and literally to every word in the Bible both New and Old testament. My God didn't make theese laws... man did. You're confusing Moses' law and the "royal law" of God. Moses added the "Laws of Moses" for transgressions of the people and were supposed to be temporary and Christ was supposed to replace them. Christ came and said. .no no keep those laws you need something when I'm dead and gone.. but don't be such hard asses and uses your brains silllies. Of course that wasn't a direct quote just a vicodin, nyquil, coffee translation, but I think you get the idea.

Wow, way to make stuff up. Isn't it about time you maybe read the fucking book?