(May 22, 2010 at 1:37 pm)tackattack Wrote: 1a- OK I had to look that one up. I would say because this is the only perspective we have until we can talk to animal, meet intellegent life or the like. I'd be interested in discussing religion with a martian.Its true that our human perspective is the only perspective that we have. Still, you seem to be saying that its some sort of priveleged perspective- or is it just a fluke that the creator of the universe is perfect to us?
Religion is, I think, intrinsically anthropomorphic. That isn't my idea- it comes out of the work of the anthropologist/ philosopher Levi-Strauss. He argued that religion is a projecting of human values and attributes on to the material universe. The most clear-cut case is in my view ethics. Christians see ethics as having a source exterior to humanity- they are, if you like, part of the fabric of the universe. This is imo self-deception.
Quote:1b- You are a complex entity, you when you speak or act it is based off of the "I" . That the consciousness is singular and immaterial yet your construct is material and complex. God you be both immaterial and material to affect this universe. There is no evidence for the material portion, whether that's a quantum singularity, dark energy, electrical fluxes or something as yet undiscovered. The immaterial consciousness is what we talk about most around here.
I disagree with you on 2 major issues here. First of all, I would dispute the view that 'I' is some sort of singularity. Secondly, I don't think that consciousness is immaterial. In fact, I don't think that consciousness could be immaterial and still have causal powers.
Quote:2-You're not going to like that the tests and evidence are subjective, but God fits that criteria for me.
Obviously I'm going to disagree with you. However, you'll need to elaborate a bit more before I can say much more than that.
He who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche
Mikhail Bakunin
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything
Friedrich Nietzsche