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Poll: What should happen to the EU?
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Federalism, the United States of Europe sounds nice
0%
0 0%
Keeping it as it is, with a balance between the EU's powers and the sovereignty of member States
66.67%
6 66.67%
Abolishing it completely, the EU sucks and enslaves weaker nations
33.33%
3 33.33%
Total 9 vote(s) 100%
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Should the European Union end?
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RE: Should the European Union end?
(July 26, 2014 at 10:44 am)Blackout Wrote:
(July 26, 2014 at 10:41 am)Chuck Wrote: I pick federalism. Ultimately it is federalism or irrelevance. Traditional separate European states will be too small economically, militarily and politically, and will have no place in any top table of world assemblies by 2050. I think a centralized government with its own military force and population of at least 150 million and a developed economy will be the minimum for anyone who is anyone to take notice.

Federalism won't happen. If Brussles tried to go openly for federalism there would be revolutions in all member States. I don't think it is wise to join 28 States who speak different languages, have different cultures, and have been at war during history. Some States hate others, for instance the greek dislike the germans

People were most times not asked if they wanted to be a part of the EU, and most don't want federalism.



They don't want federalism because the choice between federalism on the one hand, and irrelevance and powerlessness on the other have not yet become as stark as they would eventually be, say around 2050.

It's not just irrelevance, which smaller European states like Greece might think it not too different from what they were use to. It is also what stronger states with ambition for continued influence in world events might do to retain that influence in the absence of an centralized EU to act on their behalf. For example If a federalized Europe is not available for Germany to use as a it's voice in the international arena, I think Germany would likely form a coalition with Russia. This would likely be much worse for most of the lesser Eastern European than stronger federalism from Brussels.
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Messages In This Thread
Should the European Union end? - by Dystopia - July 25, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Violet - July 25, 2014 at 10:51 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by pablo628 - July 25, 2014 at 11:15 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Jenny A - July 25, 2014 at 11:59 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by c172 - July 26, 2014 at 12:02 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by ignoramus - July 26, 2014 at 12:02 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Cato - July 26, 2014 at 12:22 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Violet - July 26, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by ignoramus - July 26, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Violet - July 26, 2014 at 12:51 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Napoléon - July 26, 2014 at 6:08 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Dystopia - July 26, 2014 at 9:06 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Napoléon - July 26, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Dystopia - July 26, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by ignoramus - July 26, 2014 at 7:31 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Anomalocaris - July 26, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Dystopia - July 26, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Anomalocaris - July 26, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by vorlon13 - July 26, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Polaris - July 26, 2014 at 6:30 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by ManMachine - July 26, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Anomalocaris - July 26, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by ManMachine - July 26, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Dystopia - July 26, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Anomalocaris - July 26, 2014 at 7:54 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by Dystopia - July 26, 2014 at 8:09 pm
RE: Should the European Union end? - by ccapehart1980 - August 10, 2014 at 6:05 am

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