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Is it possible to be a gay Christian?
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RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian?
(July 27, 2014 at 8:54 pm)Purplundy Wrote:
(July 27, 2014 at 8:14 pm)Rhythm Wrote: We're halfway there already, imagining that the gospel writers were a single person - rather than a single final editor. Or imagining that book is already free of contradiction (when they've only half finished the editing job).
That's weird, I don't remember suggesting that the Gospels were written by the same dude. However, the Torah was most likely written up by a unified group, and is entirely made up of Jewish laws.
We have no idea of how many people, and over what span of time went into those laws before they were ever written down - or if there was a before, in their case. I'm commenting on the current state of belief regarding the bible, which as you've mentioned...is not a monolith. We've got folks who think that Matthew was written by a Matthew......or even a single author using the character. We've got folks who feel that the bible is wholly free of internal contradiction, and we've got people who feel that the bible very clearly lays down the rules. They all think this for "reasons" - of course. You disagree.

Quote:The same cannot be said for the rest of the Bible. Clearly the Torah writers weren't around to give the Psalms writers the memo that all they had to do was write more rules.
Why does this even matter? It remains that the Bible was written by independent individuals with different opinions belonging to two different belief systems. I agree with and identify with the latter of the two.
It matters, because you made a terribly unfortunate claim. Sure, it forms a part of your belief system - you don't see the bible as a rule book (I get that, and I understand, I really do). That it -is- a rulebook remains, however inconveniently, in plain sight. I think that the fascinating bit here is that you don't take it as such. Personally, I agree with your position, at least the nuanced bits about the bible being a collection of stories meant to convey something about the nature of man and gods. Just not for the "reasons" you offered. I think that the nuanced bit was somewhat unintentional. They wrote parables, myths, fables, stories with a moral. You are expected to see the light, in the same way that you are expected to see the light when reading "the tortoise and the hare". Being human beings, they wrote bits of themselves in. Being human beings, they had to imagine a god culpable or complicit in what they felt he was culpable or complicit in. Is it any wonder that god's cv reads like a demon's resume...given the sorts of things people see on this earth? Perhaps the greeks described their gods as capricious for precisely the same reason that the biblical god is described as such?
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Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 26, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 26, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 26, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 26, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Chad32 - July 26, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by John V - July 26, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Endo - July 26, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 27, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 27, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 27, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 27, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 26, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by John V - July 26, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 26, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Jenny A - July 26, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Polaris - July 26, 2014 at 6:32 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 26, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by ShaMan - July 26, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Elskidor - July 26, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Polaris - July 26, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Chad32 - July 26, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Polaris - July 26, 2014 at 9:17 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 26, 2014 at 9:03 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Haswell - July 27, 2014 at 7:09 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 27, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 27, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by John V - July 27, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 27, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by John V - July 27, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 27, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by John V - July 27, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 27, 2014 at 4:49 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 30, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 27, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Dystopia - July 27, 2014 at 3:41 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 27, 2014 at 3:41 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Chad32 - July 27, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vorlon13 - July 27, 2014 at 5:15 pm
Re: RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by KUSA - July 27, 2014 at 8:45 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Drich - July 28, 2014 at 12:35 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by The Grand Nudger - July 28, 2014 at 2:46 am
Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Bibliofagus - July 28, 2014 at 7:18 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by theophilus - July 30, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Chad32 - July 30, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Losty - July 30, 2014 at 12:38 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by vodkafan - July 30, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Losty - July 30, 2014 at 1:02 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Raven - July 30, 2014 at 5:36 pm
RE: Is it possible to be a gay Christian? - by Raven - July 30, 2014 at 7:05 pm

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