(July 28, 2014 at 3:42 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Once again, Sam Harris opens his mouth on politics, and once again I'm left shaking my head. This time he wrote a lengthy blog in defense of the utter brutality that Israel has been exercising on her enemies the last few weeks. You can read it here: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/why-d...ize-israel I know he speaks for no one but himself but perception is everything, and he has in many people's minds earned a place as one the fiercest and most well-versed proponents for the modern age's shift towards atheism. He's revered by many atheists, including those here, and in multiple respects this is well-deserved; that's also why I fear he is doing a heck of a job misleading the impressionable and creating a caricature of atheists that many, such as myself, find despicable. I have quoted his work before in arguing certain positions, and I can only imagine how his continual display of ignorance on vastly complex topics will be all too easily thrown back in my face.
My two biggest problems with his article:
The defense that Israel could cause a lot more damage, but doesn't, hence her intentions must be noble.
Second, that Hamas is to blame for the devastation Israel has caused for the millions who live in Gaza, when in fact Israel has made those people suffer for decades; Hamas is a predictable reaction. "Give me liberty or give me death" is a human ideal, not an American one. So, I was going to place this in the "Politics" section but I also think it deserves a spot here, as atheism, as a movement, which it can be called in some respects ("New Atheism")--and/or as it is perceived by believers--will be damaged by neo-con crap like this.
Also, Steven Pinker retweeted his link (another American Imperialist). I look forward to Murtaza Hussain's response (which he has promised in the future--and which I will post here).
All that aside, I'm still looking forward to Harris' new book Waking Up, which is coming out this September.
In a world of unicorns and rainbows you would be correct. Of course that is not real. Thus your take is not real and should be place right next to the santa clause solution.
Israel is not "brutalizing" them. They are at war with them. 1/2 measures are/seem brutal to the more emotional person. I am kind of against a full measured solution though. Unless a full measure of peace was in place. Of course that is as fake as your take. Because of muslims. And we atheists can't even be at peace with pastors so how could peace be a solution here.
If we honestly seek the answer to how a parent could send a child to be a bomb we could be closer to total peace. But of course, that would require both sides to be honest. And we, as clearly shown at this cesspool of hate site, and your post, can't have that. We have to work on becoming haters of hate only. When we can do that and not become full of bs, please, someone tell me and this puffed enough dude how to do it.
