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The honest truth of it?
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RE: The honest truth of it?
I'm not going to get all into my personal understanding of the concept of god. I simply don't feel like typing that much. Heheh. Suffice it to say... I know exactly what you theists are claiming exists... and I don't buy it. As for 'justification'...

Watson Wrote:My world-view does not rely on invisible deities or miraculous occurences any more than yours does. First because God is not invisible, and secondd because my definition of 'miracle' is far different from yours. You want to wait for balls of fiery white light to erupt in the sky and begin speaking to you before you declare a miracle has occured. My criteria are far less stunning.

This sounds like justification to me. You claim that an almighty being is not invisible to you, because you know how to see it. Then you redefine the word ‘miracle’ to fit natural occurrences in order to reinforce the belief you wish to perpetuate.

Watson Wrote:I believe he exists, because my own experiences have subjectively and sufficiently proven to me, time and time again, that He exists.

This is an example of justification, as well. You have had experiences, have you? And these experiences haven proven to you that god is real? Wow! What would those be? Or are you worried that I would simply fail to see god in them?

Watson Wrote:As I've stated numerous times, in my own change from atheism to belief, I encountered situations which I recognized as not logically explainable through any means but belief in God.

Are you sure about that? Could it be that there are answers, but you are simply unaware of them? God of the Gaps? How is this not a justification?

Watson Wrote:You say that you are a true atheist, but I simpy do not believe there is such a thing. For that to be true, one would have to exist outside of the boundaries of God, and that is simply not possible. God is a part of all things, even atheists.

Wow. This is almost as absurd as saying, “it doesn’t matter if you believe in god… He believes in you!”

Again. I don’t expect you to agree. We believe different things. It’s almost as if we’re about to have a conversation we’ve already had at this point! Haha!
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The honest truth of it? - by Watson - May 24, 2010 at 3:36 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Paul the Human - May 24, 2010 at 4:02 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Darwinian - May 24, 2010 at 4:09 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Minimalist - May 24, 2010 at 4:09 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Paul the Human - May 24, 2010 at 5:07 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Watson - May 24, 2010 at 5:14 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Paul the Human - May 24, 2010 at 5:29 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Godschild - May 25, 2010 at 12:02 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Loki_999 - May 25, 2010 at 3:57 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Caecilian - May 25, 2010 at 5:34 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Watson - May 24, 2010 at 5:42 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Paul the Human - May 24, 2010 at 5:52 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Tiberius - May 25, 2010 at 8:47 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Welsh cake - May 24, 2010 at 5:49 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Watson - May 24, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Paul the Human - May 24, 2010 at 6:21 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Watson - May 24, 2010 at 9:24 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Dotard - May 24, 2010 at 10:52 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Watson - May 24, 2010 at 11:07 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Minimalist - May 25, 2010 at 2:06 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by tackattack - May 25, 2010 at 3:40 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Godschild - May 26, 2010 at 1:51 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Tiberius - May 25, 2010 at 6:07 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Edwardo Piet - May 25, 2010 at 6:20 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Tiberius - May 25, 2010 at 6:24 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Paul the Human - May 25, 2010 at 7:21 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Dotard - May 25, 2010 at 8:26 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Eilonnwy - May 25, 2010 at 8:56 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Minimalist - May 25, 2010 at 11:52 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Welsh cake - May 25, 2010 at 3:36 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by The_Flying_Skeptic - May 25, 2010 at 3:50 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Minimalist - May 26, 2010 at 2:19 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Godschild - May 26, 2010 at 10:23 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Scented Nectar - May 27, 2010 at 9:14 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Loki_999 - May 26, 2010 at 4:45 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Minimalist - May 26, 2010 at 10:37 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Loki_999 - May 27, 2010 at 6:58 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Caecilian - May 27, 2010 at 5:14 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by tackattack - May 26, 2010 at 11:39 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Violet - May 27, 2010 at 5:03 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Godschild - May 27, 2010 at 10:25 pm
RE: The honest truth of it? - by tackattack - May 27, 2010 at 6:44 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by Violet - May 28, 2010 at 4:47 am
RE: The honest truth of it? - by tackattack - May 28, 2010 at 6:26 am

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