RE: WHY was Jesus cricified?
July 30, 2014 at 4:07 pm
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2014 at 4:10 pm by John V.)
(July 30, 2014 at 4:02 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Sorry dude, quoting white noise from the Bible isn't making your point. I'm asking you, how can you say the only 'judgment' I need to live up to is my own (which completely lacks any concept of sin or divine punishment), while still saying that I deserve divine punishment for my sin?Sorry, thought the answer to that is obvious - I don't think anyone lives up to their own standards.
(July 30, 2014 at 4:04 pm)StealthySkeptic Wrote: I'd have a TON of questions- but I think most people who know this for a FACT as in it's proven by science would be idiots not to avoid eternal torment. It's like surviving North Korea- believing in Kim Jong Il is just something you have to do.I think so too, yet that's what people here say.
(July 30, 2014 at 4:02 pm)ShaMan Wrote: Scenario:What makes you think there won't be evidence?
I claim that you're guilty of a crime, and yet I provide no evidence that the crime even occurred, let alone that you were involved in any way. BUT... I get to condemn you without any evidence.
That does not sound 'perfectly just' to me, and I'm willing to bet that it sounds ludicrous to the one being accused.
That 'god' gets to fall back on some form of cosmic 'justice' which is not to be held to scrutiny, is, to me, the perfect reason why it should be ignored entirely.
You're not on trial yet. You still have a chance to make a plea bargain so to speak. But if it goes to court, yes, an omniscient god will obviously be able to bring evidence.