(July 17, 2014 at 1:50 am)whateverist Wrote: What interests me here is the assumption that what God wants, God gets - without any expertise or skill involved. From God's point of view wouldn't you think there was something He'd do to cause the Red sea to part.
I understand. No offence but I think you've made a false assumption here. I do think there was something God did to cause the Red sea to part. People who argue against miracles call them 'magic'. Terms can be used to bias a conversation, but we could use the word(s) magic, or supernatural, or super logical, or unscientific. Bottom line I don't know how specifically God parted the red sea but I do believe that He did something in order to part the red sea.
Let's look at the rainbow to illustrate. The rainbow is a sign of the covenant that God made with Noah promising to never again wipe mankind off the face of the earth. Through technological advancements, men have discovered that the visible color spectrum can be viewed due to white light refracting.
If God is the creator/designer of naturalistic properties (such as refraction) then discovery of said properties are not contradictive but rather revelatory of God. There is a difference between understanding how something happens physically and what it means non-physically.
If God is the creator, and He designed light and water in such a way that refraction occurs under certain situations, and that one specific situation occurs when the sun comes out after a rainstorm, and that refraction is viewed as a rainbow, and the rainbow is a symbol that it will never again rain in a global catastrophe, I would say this is hardly without expertise or skill.
I would argue that scientific discovery is a revelation of God's expertise and skill.
So back to the red sea parting. Perhaps God spun the electrons of specific water molecules in such a way as to create an electromagnet, and the electrons of other water molecules in such a way as to create an electromagnet of a like pole. This would cause the water molecules to act in such a way as to repel one another, and as a result a pathway on dry land could be created in the space between the repelling water molecules (much like there is air space inbetween two magnets when their like-poles are lined up).
The above hypothesis isn't necessarily meant as an exercise in science. It was given as an illustration that there are some who think more deeply about how certain miracles could have been achieved through natural laws than you might think. They (the miracles) would, however, still require a miracle worker (or designer) to begin the process.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?