(August 1, 2014 at 12:07 am)Drich Wrote: That is the most insane thing you have said to date. If babies/kids do not belong to their parents, then who is responsible for them?
If my grandmother is placed in my care, does that mean that she becomes property I own and that I can do with her as I please?
Quote:first things first, so what? So what if you were put in a cell and told to do x.. If you were in that situation then that is how you would have to perform.
A very apt analogy to your god, indeed.
Quote:Second thing how do you know you were not given and or elected to live this life to prove yourself to God?
How do I know I was not (insert any ridiculous scenario here)?
Quote:What are you a communist? Where do you live that does not allow you to own what you create?
Where I live, I'm not allowed to own human beings as chattel. Not anymore, at least. Where I live, people are not allowed to destroy an airplane full of passengers, or a traffic-heavy bridge or an occupied building or a synthetic heart beating in someone's chest, even if they personally created these things.
Quote:Are orangutans sentient? Are dolphins sentient?
There are laws all over the world prohibiting people from destroying these animals without a very good reason.
Quote:When man finally creates a viable AI (if we haven't already) will it belong to someone? Of course it will.
That's your assumption, and I don't share it.
Quote:Just like babies belong to their parents, orangutans and dolphins to their owners. If you do not think any of these beings do not belong to someone, have one do damage to something that belongs to someone else's, and see who the damaged properity owner goes to for retribution, the sentient being who's ownership is being discussed, or the one who has taken ownership/responsibility of the beings care. Have one of these being die and see who is responsible.
And yet, you can't kill your own baby without someone coming after you with retribution in mind. I wonder why that is.
Quote:The price of sin period, is Death.
Is this an arbitrary decision on God's part, or some ineffable law of reality that even God can't possibly contradict by saying "You're forgiven, and you don't even need to do anything in return"?
Quote:Do I really need to make a list, or can't you just admit that you do things God considers to be a sin?
You do not keep the law of the prophets and you teach others not to. You don't deserve the forgiveness you seek and your actions demonstrate that you are not sincere in seeking it. Regardless of who's right about the afterlife, your eternal situation is going to be the same as mine.
