RE: Frank Discussion on Hate
May 26, 2010 at 7:54 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2010 at 8:01 pm by fr0d0.)
(May 26, 2010 at 7:33 pm)Saerules Wrote:No, alcohol isn't bad. Obsessive drinking is. Obsessive love is bad.Fr0d0 Wrote:That love makes you do stupid things doesn't make love bad. Obsession is love plus lack of control. Love on it's own isn't these things.
There's justified anger and hate.. again... different things. Hatred doesn't bring about justice. anger - controlled and tempered.. brings about justice.
Alcohol makes you do stupid things... that doesn't make it bad? Obsession isn't always about love... it is rather "an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind"... in other words: one can make vengeance their obsession... insomuch as one might make suicide their obsession (and i don't mean to imply this is intentional).
'Obsessive' <---here's the baddy!
(May 26, 2010 at 7:33 pm)Saerules Wrote: Love on it's own is simply itself... and love in itself can be a very 'negative' thing. Anger is "a strong feeling of annoyance, displeasure, or hostility"... Hatred is "a feeling of intense, passionate dislike". Hence: anger is necessarily dislike.No, love can't be negative.
(May 26, 2010 at 7:33 pm)Saerules Wrote: I have heard it questioned that anger and hate are ever justified at all... but it remains that a bloody carrot can bring about "justice": whyever could hatred not? Indeed... hatred is often the root of vengeance... and vengeance is considered by many people (especially through history and some religions) as 'just'. Anger is as likely as hatred to bring justice about... and indeed it could be questioned that they are so different at all.Anger is justified rage. there's nothing wrong with being angry - it's a response to injustice that doesn't necessitate excess or an imbalance in the reaction.
Hate on the other hand, is out of control anger.