Is Rape Natural? Part 2, 2014 Edition

[BlackMason]

Animals aren't people but people are only animals.

Very broad definition. The fact that it is so makes it useless. For example a bag is not a person. Is it then an animal? By your definition it is or at least could be.

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I'm only through the first page and I've noticed that people are using "natural" in different ways. For the purposes of this thread what does natural mean? Could it be that which one is predisposed to? If so then I disagree that murder is natural. Why are people predisposed to killing each other? How has our species survived this long? Our species has values of social co-operation engraved by evolution. I dare say that those who were predisposed to killing died off.

Does natural mean an action that is possible? If so then anything goes and I say that is a useless definition of natural. It is too wide.

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Technically it depends on the purpose. If a cannibal kills in the service of procuring dinner I wouldn't call it murder.

Perhaps you are not aware of how murder is defined in society. Generally murder is an act which abets the death of another human. So your cannibal will be led off to his prison cell.

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Actually developing medicine seems to be something humans do "naturally" along with developing all the tech it takes to live the way we do. As a species we are addicted to and dependent on tools. It's natural. We've been doing it over 200,000 years.

I think much as the desire to rape (and occasionally actually doing it) is natural, so are the cultural prohibitions against it. We are the animals who create culture, morals, religions, tech and and other constructs beyond our biology. So while rape may be natural, so is punishing it.

Jenny, this is a fantastic post excluding your discussion on rape. The problem I find is that you used a bit of equivocation. The meaning of natural takes a slight change in your rape point from it's meaning in the medicine point.