RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
August 5, 2014 at 1:35 pm
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2014 at 1:42 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(August 5, 2014 at 12:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:The Bible has always been against organization of the church.
Really?
You should read the fucking thing some time.
Quote:2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a] respect. 5 (If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God’s church?) 6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. 7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.
8 In the same way, deacons[b] are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain. 9 They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience. 10 They must first be tested; and then if there is nothing against them, let them serve as deacons.
1 Timothy 3
Of course you can take some solace in the fact that the pastoral epistles were later forgeries in the name of paul. But, then, you'd have to admit they were forgeries to gain that solace.
Oh well..... such are the problems facing the believer.
Ok genius, The Bible refers the church as the "Body of Christ". The body is not an organization (hierarchy) is more of a team. As the saying goes; There is no "i" in team.
Organization has a couple.
to put it simply, can you call any of your body parts "the greatest"? Or do they all work together to make the body function as a whole?
Everyone has a role to play all led by the same spirit.
Make sense?