(May 28, 2010 at 3:50 pm)tackattack Wrote: OK sae.. language and logic are also subjective, so is our understanding of the concept of the color black. Where are you going to draw the line? If nothing is objectively verifiable, what is this call for objective evidence for God? (don't mean to derail the topc just a quick question)
Is not 1+1=2?
I don't draw a 'line'... it is all subjective that can be perceived and described and shared with others who have agreed upon a definition. Nothing is objectively verifiable, even existence cannot be objectively verified. Existence (among other things) may be 'intersubjectively' verifiable... and what that means is that several subjective beings experience a similar feelings/impressions/perceptions/whathaveyou. It means a thing can be 'shared' among those who can experience it.
Only people who do not understand what 'objectivity' means would ever ask for "objective evidence" for anything. I should be truly impressed if anyone were to discover such a thing :S Some people don't rightly 'know' what 'objectivity' is (using 'know' by its common usage... that being 'their knowledge matches what is known to most of us')... and use it to supplant 'scientific evidence'. If you see anyone say that they want objective evidence for God, Tacky... I would recommend you first: Laugh at them... and second: ask for objective evidence for anything.
Quick answer:
1+1 does equal 2... to me and apparently my computer and most/all fellow humans I have met. Another might have a different answer... and in different circumstances the question cannot be answered at all.
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
